A Direct is announced for April 2nd to cover the games.

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    55 minutes ago

    Why would the keep this right joystick sooooooo low! I can’t play the switch.

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      Nintendo collapsed its console and handheld product lines for the Switch. We’re also seeing large parts of the gaming industry adopt the Switch form factor for their products. I don’t think there is anything that Nintendo could innovate on that would sell.

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        Yeah with Nintendo watching two Xboxes languish and consumer discontent with the recent playstations as well, there’s not a real impetus for something radical in design. Some innovation would be exciting but the Switch and PC Handhelds prove people want big grippy mobile devices, even if they’re only moving between rooms.

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      At the same time, the Switch is such a solid console that a hardware upgrade with full backwards compatibility* is really the best case scenario. People have wanted a bigger screen, better chip, and better joysticks since launch, and now we’ll have them!

      *the video says it’s not 100% compatible, but I’m assuming that’s for stuff like Labo and Ring Fit that need those exact joycon sizes/shapes.

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      I get why - the Switch was the successor of both their console and handhelds, and it did very well. Why change it?

    • MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world
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      2 hours ago

      You’d need all new accessories anyway with a complete redesign.

      I’ve bought every Nintendo console up until the Wii U. Since they abandoned that early, I decided to skip the Switch. I’ll likely pick this up. If this doesn’t do well and gets abandoned early again, I’ll at least get to play all the games I’ve missed over the years due to backwards compatibility.

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      1 hour ago

      If it’s anything like how the Wii was basically a GameCube it may not even be all that hard to rework existing switch emulators to work with switch 2 games. Given that it’s going to have full back compat I bet that’s why they went after switch emus so hard. They wanted to halt development as much as possible for as long as possible so it doesn’t eat away at they’re switch 2 sales.

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    Okay so they just made it slightly bigger. I don’t know how to feel on the joycons, though. Like with them just being held by that connector alone on either side, doesn’t make me think they’ll be as secure.

    I wouldn’t really call this an ushering of a new generation, this just feels more like an suped up Switch model.

    At least you’ll be able to play nearly all Switch games on it so nothing is that drastic.

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      24 minutes ago

      I think the expectation is that the rails are magnetized. There were a lot of reports saying that they were expected to use that technology.

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    2 hours ago

    The trailer was pretty cool and I liked the bigger screen. I can’t wait to see more of what they will reveal.

    And backwards compatible games? That’s gonna be a money saver for sure!

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    The rumor is that the price is going to be $450 for just the console and $500 for the console with Mario Kart bundled. May or may not be true, but it’s certainly plausible given how expensive electronics have gotten since 2017. I was thinking of pre-ordering after the Apr. 2 Direct, but if that price is accurate I’ll look into getting a Steam Deck instead. A lower price was the biggest advantage the original Switch had.

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    6 hours ago

    So much for Nintendo’s previous naming conventions. I was really hoping for the New Super Nintendo Switch U.

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      It looks like the controllers attach to the screen magnetically, which may interfere with the sensors of Hall Effect sticks

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        Hall effect sensor expert here! No, the magnets in the joycons that are used to attach to the display/body of the Switch 2 would not interfere with hall effect analog sticks.

        Two reasons:

        • The magnets are too far away (sensors are usually only sensitive to magnets within 10-12mm directly above/below)
        • The mounting/attachment magnets would be perpendicular to the magnets in the analog sticks (if you imagine the flux lines they wouldn’t cross the sensory boundary).

        Regardless, it would be trivial to place a tiny little piece of ferromagnetic blocking tape wherever necessary to prevent interference.

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        I’m not a scientist but I’m pretty sure theyd be able to calibrate the sensors to ignore the magnetic force of the attachment points

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          Maybe, I got the Pimax Portal a while back and due to their magnetic attachments Hall Effect sticks wouldn’t work. I’m sure Nintendo would have a better time solving this issue than Pimax would though

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      3 hours ago

      Rumors/Leaks had them and they were right about what we see in the trailer so hopefully. I’m hoping yes, nintendo must be tired of repairing joycons ^^

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        3 hours ago

        I updated my Joycons to the hall effect sticks and they’re awesome. No drift after several months.

  • Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works
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    5 hours ago

    Cool for Nintendo fans but the ROG Ally has changed the game for me. I’ll miss Pokémon but they haven’t been good in a while so whatever.

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      3 hours ago

      Pokemon is literally the same game over and over, I hugely regretted my purchase of pokemon x cause it was literally a cloned game with barely any new features. It’s probably Nintendo’s most effective cash cow in terms of effort to capital reward.

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        46 minutes ago

        Sub in literally any Nintendo franchise and it’s the same problem, but Nintendo fans don’t care.

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        2 hours ago

        I jumped through a couple hoops to get Pokemon Infinite Fusion working on my Steam Deck & I’ve been having a blast slapping shit together to see how fucked up it looks.

        Cleffa + Geodude made me giggle for a good 5 minutes.

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        I’m going to disagree. While it seems to you that it’s the same game over and over. They do add more creatures per generation, there are new moves, there are new ways in how pokemon does battling and just new things added per generation.

        The formula may have been a little stagnant or not as impressive as other leaps before, but still new things.

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          I hear this argument all the time, but I don’t really understand it. I remember when Pokemon first came out and me and all the other kids were imagining wandering through dense jungles hunting for rare and elusive Pokemon. Sure, we’d imagine battles too, but the franchise always seemed way more about discovery and adventure than about battling. That’s why I haven’t managed to finish a pokemon have since X and Y, in spite of trying each one. The battles get better, sure, but I just don’t really care. Luckily, Legends Arceus was exactly what I always pictured Pokemon to be about, and I had a blast playing through it. Hopefully the next Legends game will be just as good.

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        X and Y introduced Mega Evolution, arguably one of the greatest iterative improvements in Pokémon.

        With the upcoming Pokémon Legends: Z-A in 2025, I’m thinking about replaying X and Y.

        Scarlet and Violet were so disappointing that I too am hesitant about future Pokémon games. But I’ll keep my eyes and ears peeled to see how their upcoming games are. I no longer am a day one buyer of Pokémon games, after being burned badly on the rushed Scarlet/Violet games.

      • Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works
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        It is literally the biggest money maker in the world. The games sell about 3/5 as many copies as COD with a tiny fraction of the budget. And then they sell even more in merch. And there are people (like me in the past) that buy Nintendo consoles just for those games.

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      The Pokemon games all being the same caused me to get bored of them years ago. And now with them suing Palworld for ‘capturing monsters with an object and summoning them in 3d space’, a patent made after Palworld released their trailer, I find the Nintendo brand actively harmful to the state of gaming.

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        They actively become easier and shorter every generation. Arceus brought a lot of cool stuff into the series and there was a little bit of hope that things would improve only for them to go back to the stale old formula that wouldn’t be as bad if the games weren’t so easy now that you could beat them by mashing A. I know it’s for kids but damn, the old games were somewhat challenging.

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          The old games were beaten by a Twitch chat sending little more than random inputs to the game. Maybe the newer ones are worse, but let’s be real.

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      Well Windows is a no for me on that. And while the steam deck is nice and the OS runs on the ally too, it’s still a pc with all it’s pros and cons.

      (I use both worlds BTW)

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        The ROG Crate software is actually pretty good. It’s not perfect but I rarely have to interact with Windows at all and once you get used to the controls when doing so not all that bad. And I dislike Windows a lot, but if I feel that it’s mostly a non issue. I wouldn’t go for a SteamOS version either, as I like Gamepass.

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          Gamepass is the one reason I can’t switch. I’m with you on the crate software, pretty damn impressive.

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            Right? I’ve seen a lot of people on Reddit shitting on it and I for the life of me can’t understand why. The only big issue imo is the lack of a proper sleep mode. Hopefully Microsoft addresses this issue when/if they truly build a handheld windows experience.

            And yep, I’ll stick with Gamepass until enshitification runs its course. When it does then I’ll switch to SteamOS. But for now the service is still great for me.

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        GPU that’s roughly on par with the Steam Deck.

        …when comparing TFLOPs, and that’s not comparable across architectures (by different companies as well!).

        If we take similar-performing (in rasterization) Ampere and RDNA 2 cards (say a 3080 and 6800 XT), we can see the 3080 has 29.77 TFLOPs and the 6800 XT has 20.74 TFLOPs, an RDNA 2 FLOP is worth about 1.4x as much as an Ampere FLOP.

        So extrapolating the 1.6 “RDNA 2 TFLOPs” of the Deck we get 2.24 “Ampere TFLOPs” and that’d make the Deck quite a bit faster than the Switch 2 in portable mode, but slower than the Switch 2 in docked mode.

        This is obviously all just wild and silly speculation, but I doubt the Switch 2 will match the Deck in portable mode. Samsung 8nm would just eat too much power for this to realistically happen in a handheld form factor.

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        5 hours ago

        Especially considering it has access to DLSS, I‘m looking forward to see what Nintendo‘s first party studios can cook up with these specs. But I‘m waiting for the OLED model sometime in the future.

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        Interesting, since we now know the size I would not have expected it to be on-par roughly with the Deck while being so much thinner and a bit smaller. Hrm.

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    I really don’t like the logo. I know why the logo looks that way considering the Wii U branding debacle, but still.

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      I‘m assuming they debated about it until the very last second until they settled with the safest option. The leaks probably accelerated things a lot towards the end and it might’ve been called something different entirely if they had more time to agree on a name.

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        Its been what, 8 years since the original switch was released?

        They had plenty of time to decide on a better name.

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      Mouse mode has been rumored, and some leaks have shown what could be an optical sensor on the joy con.

      Also, if you take your current joy cons and place them on their side like that, they surprisingly feel pretty great as a mouse. Shoulder button for min click, and your thumb hits the four face buttons. I could see it working pretty well.

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      I thought the same, but the way the shot was framed made the Joy Cons look more like cars racing around. I wonder how that would work, actually.

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    I hope this hardware will stand a chance playing no man’s sky. After the freighters were introduced the switch just couldn’t handle it