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      Contender? He should’ve been the president in 2016. Democrats had to fuck that up. Trump won mostly because people hated Hilary.

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        Hilary won the popular vote by almost 3 million because most people liked her.

        She lost the electoral college vote because of a few really close states.

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          Yeah, against a playboy who didn’t have any political experience or acumen whatsoever. This should’ve been a landslide victory for dems. I stand by what I said, Trump won because it was Hilary he was up against. If it were Bernie, Trump wouldn’t have had a chance.

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            Even my dad, a blue collar welder in his late 60s, was totally on the Bernie train in 2016. If that doesn’t tell you anything about how Bernie could have done, I don’t know what will.

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              I have talked to several Trump voters that love Bernie. I mean it shows that they don’t pay any attention to policy or reality even, but I think it shows that Bernie would have won.

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          A few states that were really close because her campaign was up against a social-media heavy campaign that weaponized misinformation, and didn’t know how to respond.

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          She lost the electoral college because she rigged the primary.

          In retrospect the margin was so thin that if she’d only modestly pissed off Sanders voters she would have won.

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        Hilary was beating the rapist with 34 felonies ass in the polls. The shit stain won because people thought it was a landslide and didn’t need to vote. That won’t happen again. She still won popular vote, something a republikkklown hasn’t done in a hot minute.

        Edit: Looks like facts hurt some snowflakes feelings.

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          The reasons Hillary lost in 2016 are varied.

          • Poor GoTV operations in WI, MI, and PA.
          • Comey fucking her over with a GOP October Surprise.
          • People didn’t know what they would get with Trump. They were saying he’d turn Presidential for YEARS after he was elected. (He never did…)
          • Hillary having a faint smell of corruption around her, mostly concocted by Team Trump.
          • Russian Troll Farms filled with dipshits who worked overtime to fan dissention amongst the Left and Centre while empowering Team Trump.
          • Targeted Troll attacks in Swing States, specifically WI, MI, and PA, that Hillary wasn’t paying attention to.

          Even with all that going on, she did end up as the Winningest Losing Candidate in American history. I HOPE that they are going 50 State Strategy this time around. Trolls look for weak points that they can attack.

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        Nah, Hilary was a fine choice despite her own personal and political issues. Despite not preferring her, I am rather confident that she would have not made a bad President. Perhaps not a good one, just also not a bad one.

        Fucking shame what happened. Oi, Chaps! I say we bloody up this wanker with a side o’ voting!

        Sorry, channeling my stereotypical inner mocking British man.

        Edit: I stand by what I said unless given compelling reasons to not do so. Maybe I’m remembering things incorrectly. It’s been awhile. Make a case, don’t care if it’s a legitimate link. I’m happy to do a learn.

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        He wasn’t a Democratic Party member in 2016. He caucused and partnership with them but if he’s not going to be in the party, nobody should be surprised that he’s not the parties pick or preference. He didn’t officially join them until 2019. The circumstances might not have worked but be real the Democrats didn’t fuck it up in 2016.

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      Unfortunately Bernie’s leftist policies posed a slight risk to a small percentage of capital. So an all-out bipartisan effort to torpedo him ensued, and from the ashes emerged Planet Hillary.