• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    7 billion would go a lot further with Chinese panels

    Unfortunately:

    The Biden administration is expected to grant a request by South Korea’s Hanwha Qcells to reverse a two-year-old trade exemption that has allowed imports of a dominant solar panel technology from China and other countries to avoid tariffs, two sources familiar with the White House plans said on Wednesday.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-plans-restore-tariffs-dominant-solar-technology-sources-say-2024-04-17/

    $ talks, this is just more subsidizes for the company Biden paid to another foreign company to assemble here.

    Climate change is happening. This bullshit costs taxpayers money and means less people can afford solar even with these grants.

    But it sounds good to the uninformed. And that’s the only kind of voters either party cares about these days.

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      This isn’t a quick one and done small project. This is a massive industry that needs to go for decades and likey centuries. You want to develop your own industry because that will be cheaper long term. And so that, you know, multiple countries can crank out shitloads of panels.

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        This isn’t a quick one and done small project. This is a massive industry that needs to go for decades and likey centuries.

        Sounds like it would have been a great plan 30 years ago…

        But we don’t really have time to wait…

        We can build up our own (actually our own, not a foreign company’s) while still installing the already available panels.

        Like, money is great and all, but the planet is kind of fucking dying and America is experiencing record breaking fossil fuel production right now to prop up the economy.

        Which is likely factoring into Biden again stalling on climate action.

        But again, it works really well on people who only read headlines. Those people think Biden is getting a lot done.

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          But again, it works really well on people who only read headlines. Those people think Biden is getting a lot done.

          Yeah, that’s true if you’re willingly digging your head in the sand. But go ahead and keep complaining about how he’s done nothing since he’s been in office.

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          Sounds like, wait for it, you need record breaking massive investments!! But when they happen you complain. Like really. And you call it stalling. It’s unbelievable. And no it doesn’t take 30 years to build up the industry lol. The mental gymnastics you people have to say Biden bad is unreal. And then you attack anyone that says otherwise as uniformed and only reads headlines. *Oh someone else pointed out your username. Ciao.

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            Sounds like, wait for it, you need record breaking massive investments!!

            No one is saying we don’t.

            But giving a foreign company billions to build an assembly plant here doesn’t help as much as making our own.

            We’re still dependent on parts shipped here, and it’s still a company from a foreign country.

            And no it doesn’t take 30 years to build up the industry lol.

            No one said it did.

            But there’s not enough time to wait for this to come online and billions of dollars. We could be importing Chinese solar and EVs today, right now.

            While we build up domestic production

            I legitimately don’t see how this is confusing. If it was republicans doing it, everyone would agree it’s not the best path.

            Like, imagine your starving and a guy has a ham sandwich. But he says he grills a very nice steak, so you agree to the steak and the sandwich is thrown away. Then you find there’s all these delays on the steak, like the cow is even still alive and just munching on grass.

            Why wouldn’t you eat the ham sandwich while the steak gets ready if you’re in danger of starving? You can still have the steak later.

            Isn’t that supposed to be the moderate’s whole thing anyways?

            But since Biden is doing it, we have to pretend he’s FDR and this solves everything.

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              But giving a foreign company billions to build an assembly plant here doesn’t help as much as making our own.

              The production of the panels is in Georgia…