• ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    This guy smells like a grifter in the making. He basically tried to get fired so he could say he was canceled by liberals and when NPR didn’t fire him, he quit and said he was cancelled anyway. It’s the exact same thing that grifter Bari Weiss did when she was at The NY Times.

    Also, there seems to be a coordinated smear campaign to besmirch NPR’s CEO. People were taking clips of her out of context and trying to make a scandal where none existed. (She used to be at Wikipedia and she gave some talks where she basically said Wikipedia, specifically, is less about “truth” than “verifiability.” As in, when editing, cite a source rather than assume you are a source of truth. You can see how some selectively edited clips of those speeches can make someone sound like they aren’t worried about facts.)

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      Wikipedia should prioritize verifiably over truth. Everyone thinks they have the truth, but when you edit Wikipedia provide evidence or shut up

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    Not 👏 all 👏 viewpoints 👏 are 👏 equally 👏 valid 👏 you 👏 asshole 👏.

    Berliner has that pathological need of Conservatives to pretend they’re so persecuted, and whatever else you might think about Inskeep, he does a pretty good job of breaking Berliner down here.

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      Inskeep is Morning Edition, Kelly is ATC. I just searched NPR’s website for genocide and Morning Edition, at least, has covered it as such. I found other stories discussing the claims that Israel is conducting genocide and some of them would’ve had to appear on ATC, even if Mary Louise Kelly didn’t write the stories (as a host, she would primarily do interviews, not write stories).

      edit: I don’t think the commenter understands journalism. Outlets often call things alleged until they are confirmed (although South Africa brought a legal case, it has not been tried). Here is a great interview from early on in Israel’s invasion where NPR alleges genocide: https://www.npr.org/2023/11/21/1214341050/prosecutor-weighs-in-on-whether-what-s-happening-in-gaza-is-genocide

      It’s the same reason journalists always say “alleged killer” even when the person livestreams themselves committing murder. Genocide is an allegation that the UN has made three times in history since it was defined in 1948.

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          Did you know the UN has only legally applied the term genocide to 3 events in history?

          Do you know how journalists say “alleged” for criminals even when the crime is recorded and we can all literally see them do it?

          These are all connected. They aren’t going to use a term with legal connotations. I dispute that they label the protesters as far left, or even left at all.

          Now, in terms of this interview, I am still not getting the outrage. It’s about US policy, how is asking about an inflection point inappropriate? She’s literally asking “will the US finally stop supporting Israel?” She then explores that question and presses him on why he’d still support sending any weapons at all.

          edit: here is literally an article on NPR talking about the meaning of genocide in this context: https://www.npr.org/2023/11/21/1214341050/prosecutor-weighs-in-on-whether-what-s-happening-in-gaza-is-genocide

          Here’s another where they discuss Israel as an apartheid state: https://www.npr.org/2022/02/01/1077291879/israel-apartheid-state-amnesty-international

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              I feel like you missed my entire point about phrasing everything as an allegation to cover themselves. I’m shocked you’re replying to what I said because what you’re saying feels like you haven’t read anything I’ve said. You also routinely cherrypick misleading quotes and ignore the follow up questions where they press the specific things you talk about.

              Listen, if you want Jerry Springer-style screaming fights, don’t listen to NPR interviews. Idk what else to tell you. They aren’t going to press people 15x to get them to agree it’s genocide. One follow up question pressing them is all you get.

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                  It is not the job of any journalist or publishing house to label something a genocide.

                  That responsibility belongs to the ICJ and UN.

                  Journalists report reality, they do not shape it.