Behind the vicious Trump-Vance attacks on Haitian immigrants is a long history of making the people of Haiti pay for the audacity of their revolution.

Edit: Fellow white people, please read the article before just reading the title and reflexively commenting to make it about yourselves, thx

  • Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.winEnglish
    5216·
    4 months ago

    Um, is this a blatantly racist title? As a white person who never even got offended at Haitians claiming freedom in the first place, I think it is.

    • Capt. Wolf@lemmy.world
      227·
      4 months ago

      It’s a shitty, incendiary, clickbait title.

      If you have to gain equality by dragging someone down instead of elevating yourself, then we all end up down in the mud. Hate is not progress.

    • jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
      102·
      3 months ago

      I wouldn’t call it blatantly racist, it’s obviously biased coming from someone of Haitian heritage. But I think they over-sell it.

      Your average American likely doesn’t think about Haiti at all, positively or negatively.

      • BreadstickNinja@lemmy.worldEnglish
        9·
        3 months ago

        Yeah, if you asked Trump supporters to find Haiti on a map, I’m guessing a single-digit percentage is getting it right. Their prejudice towards immigrants is not some calculated, historically-informed position. It’s a basal fear of the other.

    • shastaxc@lemm.ee
      4·
      3 months ago

      I don’t even know what they got independence from. France, hundreds of years ago? Why would I care? To equate white people with the French definitely seems racist to me.

    • Maggoty@lemmy.world
      1·
      3 months ago

      It’s no different than the US blowing stuff up in the developing world. It’s not about you specifically.

      • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
        182·
        4 months ago

        Considering most Americans don’t know the history of Haiti, nor could even point it out on a map. So I doubt many are offended

        • michaelmrose@lemmy.worldEnglish
          31·
          3 months ago

          That is the great thing about hate it doesn’t really require specific knowledge. Most of the people who lynched black folks in the south didn’t have a lot of specific understanding of the cultures or history of the people they hated they had a sort of diffuse hatred based on nothing real. Assuming that historical issues aren’t a root of anything because the rabble doesn’t specifically understand why they are supposed to hate someone is just a basic misunderstanding of how people work.

          It’s like thinking the smell of shit doesn’t come from the turd because the people smelling it can’t actually see it.

    • Miles O'Brien@startrek.websiteEnglish
      93·
      3 months ago

      And here I thought I agreed with the Haitians, and thought that people like John Brown did nothing wrong…

      Turns out I’m Big Mad?

        • Avg@lemm.ee
          92·
          3 months ago

          Their complaint is valid, making accusations towards a group based solely on their skin color is wrong no matter the color. Also I hardly think the MAGA white people, which I assume is the group this article was attempting to blame, know enough history to know how Haiti got its independence.

  • eran_morad@lemmy.world
    262·
    4 months ago

    Not so sure it’s white people in general. France, obviously yes. I don’t think any other country ever demanded “reparations” for the loss of slave labor. That said, the US has had a complicated and at times troubling relationship with Haiti, intervening on France’s side during Jefferson’s presidency (Jefferson was a slave owner and shit was fucked).