• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    What’s your point?

    My point is that they’re anonymous to avoid repercussions.

    Do you actually think anyone close enough to actually know wouldn’t be identified and fired anyway?

    Of course. Do you have any idea how many people work for and around the president?

    Do you actually think they have sources?

    Of course. Jacobin isn’t the NY Compost or Breitbart. They don’t just make shit up out of thin air for clicks and propaganda purposes.

    until they’re named there are all of zero reasons to believe anything these “sources” say. Or that they exist.

    Yeah, because everyone should just shut up or risk severe retaliation for telling the truth about powerful people! That’s gonna be great for investigative journalism! 🤦

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      9 months ago

      If this were the NY Post, you’d be agreeing with me.

      Can’t have it both ways.

      If the sources are not verifiable, then they may as well not exist. Not least, because we can’t verify the motive of that source.

      What if this source is a staffer for Johnson whose only job is to coordinate meetings with the house speaker?

      I don’t care if sources don’t gossip behind the presidents back because, you know, they might get fired for leaking shit. I dislike Biden as a president, immensely… but this article is a hit piece. Pure and simple,

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        9 months ago

        If this were the NY Post, you’d be agreeing with me

        No. That’s not how it works.

        Can’t have it both ways.

        Both WHAT ways? Knowing that Jacobin don’t make shit up while also knowing that the Compost do? The hell I can’t. That is ALSO not how it works. Do you know how ANYTHING works? Anything at all?

        If the sources are not verifiable, then they may as well not exist.

        If they’re quoted in Jacobin, they’ve been verified by competent journalists who do their due diligence AND protect their confidential sources.

        Not least, because we can’t verify the motive of that source.

        Again, competent journalists know how to look into and verify their sources. Publishing their names would only serve to make it easier for people with power over them to abuse that power and for others to endlessly harass, threaten and possibly attack them.

        What if this source is a staffer for Johnson whose only job is to coordinate meetings with the house speaker?

        Then they’d know that and not trust anything that person says without it being verified by a much more reliable source. This is all very basic obvious stuff, dude…

        I don’t care if sources don’t gossip behind the presidents back because, you know, they might get fired for leaking shit.

        Yeah, because you clearly know nothing and care less about the truth getting out than whistle-blowers losing their anonymity so you can attack them for other perceived shortcomings 🙄

        I dislike Biden as a president, immensely

        So you’re arguing not from astounding ignorance and bias, just from absolute ignorance? Good to know, I guess 🤷

        this article is a hit piece. Pure and simple.

        Is your name Jon Snow? Because you clearly know nothing. About how ANYTHING works.

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          9 months ago

          Oh look. Insults.

          oh. and by the way. you might want to go look up at the entire purpose of sources to begin with.

          Because without knowing the source, you can’t properly evaluate the source’s credibility.

          without knowing where a source comes from,, it turns into blind trust. You’re trusting that Jacobin did the due diligence on their soruces… that the are only accepting credible sources, and that those credible sources aren’t acting out of some kind of malice. and that’s how you wind up with this shit show… because the Pubies bought that source’s lies hook line and sinker.

          I don’t care what newspaper is telling me a thing. if that thing is sourced with “officials” or “People familiar with the matter” or any other form… it’s appropriate and necessary to dismiss that article’s assertion until they do reveal their sources. Just because the article is saying something I agree with, doesn’t make the article not a hit-piece. because the article plays on emotion, and says stuff I agree with… that’s why it gets more scrutiny than NY Post… which I’m perfectly content to just dismiss out of hand.

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            9 months ago

            Oh look, still being wilfully ignorant and not understanding how journalism about powerful and vengeful people works.

            Since there’s obviously no getting simple facts about how journalism works through your thick skull, we’re done here.