• Godort@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    Green Day used to be anti-establishment, now they are the establishment.

    American Idiot is almost 20 years old and the message hasn’t changed. Do these people just have zero media literacy?

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    3 months ago

    Never ceases to amaze me when “fans” of a band appear to completely ignore their lyrics. Are these people who only know “Longview” and “Time of your Life?”

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      3 months ago

      I don’t man, I don’t consider them punk punk but pop punk, but still doesn’t change your statement.

      I’m still surprised punk hasn’t made a come back. We are dying of old age and this is the right environment for punk to flourish.

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        3 months ago

        Not punk but industrial. Though KMFDM has always been political. But there’s a few tracks on the new album that are far less subtle than usual.

        Also forgot to point out that punk was a product of its time. And it’s environment. Very much a DIY ethic. Which lent to its sound. DIY today is going to sound a lot different. Unless people are going to ape the sound without any of the influence.

        Even many of the iconic punkers got tired of it and moved on when new things became available. As mentioned John Lyden AKA Johnny rotten. Left the pistols for Public Image limited. Last I heard Jell-O was still trying to get into California politics?

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            3 months ago

            Huh, TIL. He’s a shitbag, but I really think guys like him do it because being a backwards ass hat is unpopular now and he only knows how to be against things, not for them.

            I was like that in my teens and early 20s. Not conservative, just hated anything that appeared popular. I was insufferable. This dude really seems like an old ass pizza cutter. All edge, no point.

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          3 months ago

          TL;Dr: Long, rambling old man shit incoming.

          You’re absolutely right. The DIY landscape is so incredibly different. Now you can get an electric guitar with reasonable QC and an amp with modeling and a hundred presets that plugs directly into your computer to record. There’s loads of free lessons online that show people how to play instruments. There are tabs for almost every song put out by any semi-popular artist so you don’t have to try to reverse engineer them anymore. There are backing tracks. We didn’t have any of that shit. We had a solid state amp with two channels, one of which was poorly distorted.

          And I’m here for it. It’s not my dad’s punk. It’s not my punk and pop punk. It belongs to new people and I’m excited for them to look back at it the way I look back at the bands that excited me when I was a kid. They’ll have new genres built upon the shoulders of the ones I listened to, which stood on the shoulders of those that came before.

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            3 months ago

            Yep at the time an old guitar and a beat-up drum set was realistically what you’re getting. Maybe a basic organ / keyboard. Which is what led to the distinct sound along with General lack of production and mastering.

            Now you can pick up second hand synthesizer sequencers etc etc etc. The Landscapes opened up a lot more and as you said with digital audio workstations Etc pretty much make any sort of sound you want.

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    3 months ago

    Wtf were they expecting? Like, it’s green day, they’ve always been pretty forward about their politics, and it’s been in the lyrics the entire time.

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      3 months ago

      Seriously. I don’t even listen to Green Day, and even I know that this isn’t new territory for them. Did these people not know about American Idiot and who that was about?