• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    This is just starting. I’m always baffled by just how long it takes news to trickle into polling. You should expect her numbers to continue to gain for any where from two to three weeks out from this week. Most people are utterly tuned out and have been for a while, so it will take time.

    A few other considerations as we watch her polling: Harris is getting real grass roots support. This is something Biden never had (barely in 2020, and very much not in 2024). Progressive groups are mobilizing now and the infrastructure is being set up as we speak, but Harris will have real advocacy at a grass-roots starting end of this week, and really coming online in another 2-4 weeks since it takes time to get set up, get volunteers, gets access to the van, etc.

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      I honestly believe that Biden only won in 2020 because of how badly Trump fumbled covid. Biden just was never able to energize the base like you’re saying. Covid did the work of energizing people for him. Even in 2022 it wasn’t that the dems were well liked or Biden helped down the ticket, it was that Trump endorsed the worst possible candidates.

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        Biden only won in 2020 because of how badly Trump fumbled covid

        Oh 100%. And a dusty old boot could have beat him. Trump is and has always been an infinitely beatable candidate. Its just a matter of not running objectively weaker candidates like Hillary or Biden.

        Biden won 2020 for two reasons: The DNC ratfucked Bernie in the primary (their words, not mine); and when it came time, Bernie was the bigger man and asked his constituents to support Biden in exchange for control of the platform (and the deal worked!).

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          Biden won the nomination because he kicked butt in the South so bad everybody else dropped out.

          He always was kind of a weak candidate, but he won, and more importantly he made his win stick during the whole run up to the coup and after. He wasn’t in the news much then, but that took a cool head.

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            Biden won the nomination because he kicked butt in the South so bad everybody else dropped out.

            This is such a delusional statement I don’t even know where to start.

            Biden didn’t start winning until the DNC ratfucked the process.

            Those are Adam Smith’s, eg, the self admitted chief ratfuckers words, not mine.

            Bernie was running away with it till the collective drop out on the Sunday before Super Tuesday. Why in the fuck else do you think Pete Buttigieg, a one time mayor of a microscopic college town is secretary of anything?