• gAlienLifeform@lemmy.worldOP
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    1 year ago

    I mean, for my own personal opinion - I’ve got no problem throwing money at Ukraine because Putin is an asshole and we can afford it, but throwing asylum seekers under the bus to do it is a moral abomination and political malpractice

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      1 year ago

      It’s not just for Ukraine! They’re bending over backwards to fund Israel’s genocidal campaign in Gaza and adding fuel to the powder keg in Taiwan.

      It’s like they’re trying to start WW3

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        1 year ago

        “Adding fuel to the powder keg in Taiwan”

        Yes, I am sure that Taiwan will invade China any day now.

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          1 year ago

          It might decide to declare true independence and break away from China’s government entirely, and then China would respond in the obvious way, and now WW3 has another front.

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            1 year ago

            Arguably the only thing keeping Taiwan from being fully annexed right now is what they have built up militarily and that they are an island.

            The powder keg you’re bemoaning is them maybe putting up a fight in the future vs getting steamrolled quickly and without much fanfare.

            If you think China has a right to the country, then sure I can see why you have a problem with them being able to defend themselves. Otherwise, I’m not sure what your point is. Taiwan isn’t building up for an attack on China so maybe ease up on the victim blaming here.

            • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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              1 year ago

              Have you considered that China would prefer to avoid violence when they consolidate the country? And that, maybe, all of this military hardware and funding might make peaceful reunification harder?

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                    1 year ago

                    “We want to do it peacefully, but if you resist we’ll do it violently. This makes it not imperialism.”

                    Do you even listen to yourself?

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                Have I considered that China would like for the people it invades to just roll over and accept their new masters instead of fighting back?

                Yeah, I considered that. It seems likely that they would want that. I have yet to think of any good reason why they should get that wish, though.

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                    1 year ago

                    It’s not China’s place to make that choice for Taiwan. If they want to entice Taiwan to join them voluntarily, well, they’ve done a pretty bad job showing how “beneficial” that would be when you look at Hong Kong.

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            1 year ago

            “In the obvious way”

            Maybe the attempted subjugation of a nation should be blamed on the subjugator and not the democratic government which represents the to-be-subjugated?

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              China can’t afford to have a hostile US aligned Taiwan. That’s as unacceptable as the USSR putting nukes in Cuba. It’s literally a threat to both their regional power and national security.

              Also? Peaceful reunification is not some impossible thing, but it becomes much harder when hardline nationalists have endless military backing from the US.

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                China can’t afford to have a hostile US aligned Taiwan.

                … there already is a hostile US-aligned Taiwan, and has been for as long as the PRC has existed.

                It’s literally a threat to both their regional power and national security.

                Therefore, it must be crushed, and it’s the duty of every true anti-imperialist to lend critical support to Chinese imperialism.

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                  … there already is a hostile US-aligned Taiwan, and has been for as long as the PRC has existed.

                  It wasn’t being armed to the teeth before.

                  Again, remember the Cuban missile crisis.

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                    It wasn’t being armed to the teeth before.

                    … what?

                    Are you completely unaware of the history of ROC-US relations? We’ve been arming them ‘to the teeth’ for as long as the PRC has existed.