• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    It might decide to declare true independence and break away from China’s government entirely, and then China would respond in the obvious way, and now WW3 has another front.

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      1 year ago

      “In the obvious way”

      Maybe the attempted subjugation of a nation should be blamed on the subjugator and not the democratic government which represents the to-be-subjugated?

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        China can’t afford to have a hostile US aligned Taiwan. That’s as unacceptable as the USSR putting nukes in Cuba. It’s literally a threat to both their regional power and national security.

        Also? Peaceful reunification is not some impossible thing, but it becomes much harder when hardline nationalists have endless military backing from the US.

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          China can’t afford to have a hostile US aligned Taiwan.

          … there already is a hostile US-aligned Taiwan, and has been for as long as the PRC has existed.

          It’s literally a threat to both their regional power and national security.

          Therefore, it must be crushed, and it’s the duty of every true anti-imperialist to lend critical support to Chinese imperialism.

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      Arguably the only thing keeping Taiwan from being fully annexed right now is what they have built up militarily and that they are an island.

      The powder keg you’re bemoaning is them maybe putting up a fight in the future vs getting steamrolled quickly and without much fanfare.

      If you think China has a right to the country, then sure I can see why you have a problem with them being able to defend themselves. Otherwise, I’m not sure what your point is. Taiwan isn’t building up for an attack on China so maybe ease up on the victim blaming here.

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        Have you considered that China would prefer to avoid violence when they consolidate the country? And that, maybe, all of this military hardware and funding might make peaceful reunification harder?

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                I get it, China bad.

                Whatever, I won’t convince libs that we shouldn’t be provoking China over Taiwan. Instead, I want you to think about the fact that Republicans are able to use this shit as leverage and now it’s going to be harder for refugees to receive asylum. For Taiwan. What the fuck?

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              “We want to do it peacefully, but if you resist we’ll do it violently. This makes it not imperialism.”

              Do you even listen to yourself?

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                  It’s literally what you said, dumbass. You said if Taiwan declares independence China will have no choice but to invade.

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                    I did not use the word “invade”

                    Let me clarify; China will cut off trade and freedom of movement, begin blockading the straight, shut down banking and communications, etc. I doubt they’d land boots on the ground and they certainly wouldn’t bomb Taiwan.

                    At least, not until Taiwan starts using all those shiney new weapons with the expectation that they have the full support of the United States. Then there’d be an invasion.

                    At the end of the day, you need to choose between war and peace. And it seems Democrats are willing to fuck over asylum seekers for the chance to start another war.

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          Have I considered that China would like for the people it invades to just roll over and accept their new masters instead of fighting back?

          Yeah, I considered that. It seems likely that they would want that. I have yet to think of any good reason why they should get that wish, though.

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              It’s not China’s place to make that choice for Taiwan. If they want to entice Taiwan to join them voluntarily, well, they’ve done a pretty bad job showing how “beneficial” that would be when you look at Hong Kong.