• Brokkr@lemmy.world
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    Obama left office in 2016, he was one of the most beneficial presidents since JFK or Carter. The next most beneficial president is currently in office. Neither of them are perfect, none of them have been. But the last 2 democratic presidents have been amazing.

    If you truly believe that Biden has done nothing, then you’ve either been duped by propaganda or you just play a Democrat online.

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      You kind of just made my point…

      All of those future presidents are/were more conservative than FDR. Despite being elected generations later. Like, even Obama’s campaign healthcare plan was more conservative than FDRs. Their goal for tax rates were way lower, their minimum wage was lower after inflation

      Seriously, take you pick of them and make a single economic issue you think they’re more progressive than FDR on. I’ll take the time to get you some links.

      you just play a Democrat online.

      Honestly at this point I don’t think I’d say I am a Dem anymore. There’s some good Dems in office, they just have to constantly fight their own party in addition to republicans.

      I like progressive more, the two private parties are not something our government needs. They’re just clubs that we never get to the VIP. We just pay for their tabs.

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        Like, even Obama’s campaign healthcare plan was more conservative than FDRs. Their goal for tax rates were way lower, their minimum wage was lower after inflation

        Seriously, take you pick of them and make a single economic issue you think they’re more progressive than FDR on.

        Out of quite a long time that I’ve spent arguing with the shills, this is the first time that I’ve had a strong suspicion that any specific shill was specifically not from the US.

        Accusing a politician of being less progressive than literally the single most progressive president in US history, as some kind of gotcha, is such a weird nonsensical flex that it seems like it might come from a position of not actually having a native understanding of US history. Evaluating FDR with this anachronistic modern-day political analysis, is such a weird confusion of ideas that I have trouble seeing an American doing it whether they are liberal or conservative. E.g. I have literally never heard from any other person who thinks that moderates and Republicans “kicked out” FDR, or talks about FDR’s “healthcare plan.”

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          I have trouble seeing an American doing it whether they are liberal or conservative

          ah, the two genders

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        even Obama’s campaign healthcare plan was more conservative than FDRs.

        LOL, you mean the healthcare plan that FDR never passed?

        single economic issue you think they’re more progressive than FDR on.

        LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act and Obama signed the Lily Ledbetter Act. What did FDR do to ensure equal pay for women?