Yeah and give it two weeks and they’ll all poll worse because the spin machine aimed at them.
People are deluded to think a fresh face is gonna be better than the incumbent.
Yeah and give it two weeks and they’ll all poll worse because the spin machine aimed at them.
People are deluded to think a fresh face is gonna be better than the incumbent.
Don’t even have to fork. Just contribute to servo.
But hey, don’t vote for Biden because of a bad debate. After all, how much worse can more conservative justices be…
Not directed at you- just in general.
Progressive paradox. Simultaneously so popular but can never get enough votes.
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This is simply fan fic.
There are two standards. Everyone expects Republicans to be lying shitheads so when they are, no one is surprised.
We somehow just accept this.
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Young people are fucking stupid then if they think trump gets them anywhere nearer their goals.
Source- I was a dumb youth in my day. Vote for the car that gets you closest to your destination, not farther away from it. And definitely don’t abstain and then complain after the fact that things are worse.
Biggest climate change law ever, forgave student loans, pardoned homosexual acts on the military, stood in picket lines, got railroad workers sick days, appointed a trust buster to the FTC.
Plenty more. And he’s not trump. Got my vote and Anyone who isn’t a complete dumbass, their vote too. Don’t forget about who will pick new SCOTUS justices too.
The last three years did that. Idgaf about one bad debate.
This is so dumb. The Democratic party coalesced around Biden. If more people wanted Bernie then they should’ve fucking voted for him in the primary.
I did but can easily recognize not enough of others did.
You are always full of the absolute worst takes.
Because I’m at a fast food place in the first place because my time is important and I don’t want to waste it ordering.
That and the guy taking orders does it 1000x a day and i can easily order that way instead of me navigating ten different menus just to order a simple meal for my family.
I’m OK with my old man status at this point. Tech is good when it improves things for the consumer. The kiosks seem to just improve the company bottom line IMO.
Your vote is worth shit because you don’t use it.
No it’s rather the incessant whining with no actual solutions. You do realize there are more voters than just you? I’m sure there are plenty of Democrats (including a lot of Jewish people) who are fine with how the war in Gaza is going.
That doesn’t make it right but it does make it hard to straddle the line between not pissing off progressives and more conservative Dems.
You think Biden wants to lose? You think he doesn’t have scads of analysts telling him which way to lean? You think he purposefully wants to lose your vote? He might be a zionist himself but he’s also no idiot, especially politically. He’s going to lean the way he thinks he needs to to get elected.
Again, that doesn’t make it right. That doesn’t make the genocide ok. And it sucks, it truly does (more than sucks, it’s abhorrent.) But if he and the Dems lose power going too far one way or another, they lose the power the do ANYTHING good. Things will get immeasurably worse.
So when you do nothing but bitch and moan and inspire others to abstain, you’re doing a disservice. You can speak against the genocide all you want but when you do this bitching about “genocide Joe” and deflate turnout and votes for Joe then you’re making things WORSE. You’re asking something of him that he cannot give.
It’s your absolute lack of knowledge in the political arena that I think is the worst. And it leads you to make things worse either knowingly or unknowingly. Study up and it’d help. Shit sucks the world over (because there is a genocide in Sudan too that you could speak out against but somehow that doesn’t catch your radar nor do you really laud Joe Biden and the Dems for funding Ukraine against Russia, just lambast them for Palestine) and will continue to suck. It’s life. But acting as if the US can realistically do everything you want is foolish, especially when the USG represents more than just ensign_crab. Or is the war in Gaza the only one that matters? Would things be better if your posts encouraged people to “take a moral stand” and abstain and let Trump waltz in then let Israel turn Gaza into even more of a parking lot? Would Ukraine be better off when Trump and the Rs cut Ukraine off and let Russia take over them and then perhaps Moldova next? Or does your barometer stop in the Mid East?
And only my left? What are you talking about? I think the right sucks way, way more than the left, the “centrists” suck that think both sides are the same. I also think the centrists suck ass when they flake out and don’t vote for progressives too. Quite frankly, there’s very few people politically I don’t think suck. Or do you think I’m some centrist who thinks things are peachy? I’m not. I’m simply a realist. I have lived long enough to see how things play out. The only ones who win are the ones who play the game to win. It’s messy and almost never fun but it’s the only way to actually MAKE progress, instead of just talking about it.
Yeah, I’m quite upset you would abstain and let a fascist walk in, sure. That is fair.
But you’re deliberately avoiding the question. If leftists are so numerous and their views so popular, WHY CAN THEY NOT OVERPOWER THE BOOMER DEMS?
Face it- you do the same shit everyone else does. You cry and whine because you didn’t get your way and you stop all effort. You didn’t get every damn thing you wanted (besides student loans forgiven, medicare insulin capped, biggest climate bill ever, a president walking in a picket line, etc.) so it’s time to give up? It’s time to abstain because of genocide knowing the other actual choice would be FAR WORSE for Palestine (let alone everything else)? But hey, at least go go gadget would get to be all haughty and on their high horse saying “my conscience is clear” while everything gets worse.
Maybe be in it for the long haul and be the change you want to see. Again- if leftists are so numerous they should have no problem pulling AOCs all over the place and changing the landscape dramatically. The right can do it so why can’t the left?
Again, I’m not upset you have morals and want to end the genocide in Palestine, etc. I do too. I want better healthcare (either nationalized, single payer, some universal with public/private a la Germany, etc.), I want better social safety nets, guaranteed parental leave, etc. I think a lot do.
I’m upset that people like you bitch and moan all the goddamn time and act as if you’re so marginalized and so victimized that you not only abstain yourself but convince others to do the same, or don’t vote in primaries, or don’t volunteer, etc.
You need to face up to the facts- either leftist/progressive voters are NOT as numerous as you all think and you get represented precisely how much you should be given how big the tent has to be in a FPTP system or leftist/progressive voters are numerous and are simply extremely apathetic where they can’t be bothered to turn out for someone that isn’t basically their knight in shining armor. In which case, again, they get represented EXACTLY how much they should because they are lazy and flakey and not worth anyone’s time courting.
I don’t want to beat people down but I’m tired of people acting as if there is a huge groundswell of support. Study after study and election after election show that the issue is exactly as I described in the previous paragraph. Either show up and be counted or continue to whine when things don’t go your way.
This is not a defense of boomers at all.
It’s a criticism of lazy ass young voters, of which I was one once. Maybe if you did one thing like boomers (VOTE- EVERY- TIME) then you’d get your way.
But then I guess you wouuldn’t get to be the perpetual victim and wah wah wah, the world is so mean.
If young voters wanted anything maybe they’d get off their whiny asses and vote EVERY TIME and change things.
If theyre so numerous and so progressive why can’t they just take the party over? Why can’t they vote progressives in every house district, every senator race, who would then nominate a progressive for president the next time?
The stupid average voter is barely even aware of anything, let alone one bad debate. They haven’t had to think about Biden for four years. They won’t even remember that come November if they ever did hear of it.
You’re trading complacency and incumbency for a complete unknown. That’s the dumbest fucking thing you can do, to put it lightly.