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While this is not worthy of ww3, defending nato member space is something nato can and should do. Whether the strike is intended or not, nato is legitimate to defend the area to prevent a strike. More than legitimate in fact.

And what definition of tankie is used here? I’ve been called a tankie several times on this thread and on lemmy while I discovered this word here on lemmy.

Are you concerned you might be a fascist or are you trying to disregard and disqualify me based on whtt I consider a fascist?

My point is that here there is a witch hunt against supposed tankies whyle fascists are welcome. Considering the political climate in western countries, do you think fascism or tankism will be more prevalent? Why is the fight against tankies so much more prevalent on lemmy.world then?

When people support a genocide I tend to consider them fascists. When they consider leftists to be extremist of fascist, they are usually fascist themselves. When they promote authoritarianism, intolerance, xenophobia,… When people talk about wokes or wokism, they’re usually fascists. When they support US imperialism.

Most fascists blind themselves though, and the propaganda picture anyone against the fascists as fascists.

The biggest lie to picture the left as fascist simply because they don’t support liberalism. Leftists have always been the first victims of fascism. That should give you a hint.

I’m not a tankie, and I see far more fascists than I see tankies. In fact I’ve seen maybe two tankies comments on lemmy while I see fascists several times a week.

You can block instances for yourself instead of blocking them for everyone.

This thread is about de federating from lemmy.lm. Because some fascists here are on a witch hunt against some people from hexbear.

It is literally telling everyone that either they defederate from hexbear or they defederate from lemmy.world.

Typical trump diplomacy btw.

It’s crazy that people here want the most authoritarian measure to fight authoritarianism somehow…

So you don’t care about the instance you want to ban all the users from there. That’s quite open minded and tolerant!

This is what happens when you oppress the people seeking help.

I’m obviously not justifying or excusing terrorism. But I condemn the politicians responsible for preventing this kind of situation. They instead do everything for this to happen.

Yet, but specifying this, you focus the discussion on the flaws of the left, rather than the actual fascists who are training, arming, and preparing coops in the western world, like they did in the US not so long ago.

Yet here we are talking about how communists are also fascists…

In my country we have antifa for antifascists. Are you here some kind of anti-tankies? Because I see far, far more posts about antitankies fighting supposed tankies than I see people fighting fascists.

The definition for intelligence changed over the last 2 centuries because we keep discovering how an animal can fit the definition, and intelligence was used to separate humans from animals. Now it’s even worse because people are trying to separate AI from humans.

I like the concept laid out by Delany: in a novel he describe 3 levels of intelligence based on the understanding of various point of views, but it’s not a ranking.

The first stage is simplex: people don’t understand the science of the world, so everything is kind of magical but this concept of magic make the world hold itself and they can grasp everything and use everything with this conception of magic.

Second stage is complex: people have an understanding of science and they can explain many things, but not everything. And when they can’t explain something, they can’t cope with it, because they don’t have the conceptual tools for it. Thus they will either deny this thing existence of plug it into their existing concepts by ignoring the feature that can’t fit.

Third and last stage is multiplex : people can accept that there are theories different than the ones they know, ideas also. Point of views can shape the way you see the world, and even the scientific theories you have to explain the world can be seen as a point of view on the world, so changing this point of view can bring a new or different understanding of a phenomenon or thing or person. These points of view all coexist at the same time, none of them is more true than the other. Like the concept of magic, this allows to grasp, use or accept even the ununderstandable and the unknown, but with a better ability to understand than the simplex stage.

I like this model. But it’s more a model for open-mindedness than intelligence. But maybe that’s the thing.

Available space is free to build? That’s the least ecologist sentence I read in an ecology or energy discussion. Next you’ll tell me green fuel is renewable and green won’t you?

A lot of lies of wrong stuff here. The environment for example is much more damaged by renewables, because you need truckloads of space to build the wind or solar farm. China demonstrate how hydro can be damaging too. And it usually ignores the need for energy storage. Both solar and batteries need high quantities of minerals, so that’s not better than anything else here. Nuclear is arguably a lot better because of the energy density of the mined material.

Ecologists these days seem like a cult that would rather see the world burn in coal and oil than to see even one nuclear power plant built. And this based on ignorance, fear and lies. It’s sad.

Oh so pragmatism would have that we abandon any hope at equality and we should accept to be slaves for the rich?

I’m pretty sure many Chinese are well off, free and full of dignity.

It’s also easier to be a successful country when you’re not under ambargo just because you’re not sold to capitalist companies. Did the US left even one communist country live normally?

But more importantly, how many successful capitalist countries, today, aren’t going fascist at full speed?

My point is about the flawed argument : “communism is bad because the attempts have failed”. Well, there are more capitalist attempts that failed than communist ones, so the argument doesn’t hold.

What about all these capitalist places that fell into fascism? What about the successful capitalist states that are currently falling into fascism?