Maryam Alwan figured the worst was over after New York City police in riot gear arrested her and other protesters on the Columbia University campus, loaded them onto buses and held them in custody for hours.
But the next evening, the college junior received an email from the university. Alwan and other students were being suspended after their arrests at the “ Gaza Solidarity Encampment,” a tactic colleges across the country have deployed to calm growing campus protests against the Israel-Hamas war.
The students’ plight has become a central part of protests, with students and a growing number of faculty demanding their amnesty. At issue is whether universities and law enforcement will clear the charges and withhold other consequences, or whether the suspensions and legal records will follow students into their adult lives.
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It’s a risk that shouldn’t exist when practicing freedom of speech in a peaceful manner.
Not all of them have been peaceful, and it’s still private property and they can ask you to leave, with legal consequences if you don’t. And a lot of the rhetoric and chants have advocated violence.
Which chants or rhetoric by protesters have advocated violence?
The ones made by zionist counterprotestors as a false flag. Because they know they have no ground to stand on, they need to deceive the rest of the country to get the support they need
I almost replied with that lol, I wanted to see if they had a genuine example but I’m sure they don’t.
The consequence should be the inconvenience of protesting. Even if you’re willing to go to jail doesn’t mean you want to.
Is it just to be jailed for protesting genocide?
No. But you wear your arrest like a badge of honor, not ask for your record to be cleaned so you can go back to your capitalist 9-5, and protest on weekends
I can give you plenty of reasons where it would be.
To start with, you haven’t defined your terms.
Is jailed actually jailed, or does book and release count?
What is your definition of protest here?
There are many things that have to be defined before you can try to pay you’re little word game there.
Wow, you’re a pedantic one.
It you’re put in a jail, you’ve been jailed. Note: jail, not prison.
What? I have never heard anyone need this defined for them. Look it up yourself.
You listed two thing, both well defined. I need you to define the word “defined,” “before,” and “word game” please. I can’t understand your comment.
“At what point does a legal protest become an illegal one?” would I guess be a better way to say it
My point is that what one person considers a peaceful protest, another can not.
If it’s a 99% peaceful protest does it still count.
For the record I understand your point to a point, but yes some people do deserve to be jailed for protesting genocide.
Just like the people who think anortion is basically baby genocide and fire bomb abortion clinics deserve to go to jail
Yeah, you didn’t say “peaceful” but also I’ve seen no evidence of violence from students in these protests. That said, I haven’t really kept up with it. Maybe there’s an instance of violence, but you can use collective punishment to hold them all accountable for that. If you do then no protest is allowed. I haven’t seen anyone defend anyone using violence. You’re bringing that up as a strawman.
You asked if it is just to be jailed for protesting genocide.
I said yes, you didn’t ask is it right for these students to be jailed.
People like to use questions that are extremely vague in conjunction with subjects that are related, but not as strongly as the questioned asked.
That is bullshit wordgamery and I will call it out
Such transparent dogshit on display here xD you insist that they define basic words like “jailed” and “peaceful” and “protest” , and accuse them of “wordgamery” bc you can’t understand the basic English words they’re saying. Just letting you know nobody is falling for this, you’re just making yourself look stupid by acting like others’ words are utterly incomprehensible when it’s obviously not :3
How is it ever just to be jailed for protesting genocide. Maybe it is while sometimes, if you do something illegal in conjunction with it. The act itself isn’t illegal though, so getting arrested for it is unjust.
Like I said, what I consider a protest, others might not.
So yeah, it depends on your definitions
I feel like peaceful is the difference between protesting and rioting
It isn’t, but I’ll take the bait anyway. Where were these students not peaceful? I haven’t seen it yet.
Just FYI, MLK Jr, the person most known for “peaceful protest” today in the US, was said to have been starting riots by much of the mainstream media. It’s easy to say people are rioting to make people disagree with them, especially if you use violence against them and accuse them of being violent now.
I never said there were.
You said is if it just to be jailed for protesting genocide.
Yes there are
No, and that you thought it might have been is the scariest thing to me. This is why people should exercise their rights, otherwise the population doesn’t even know what rights are there and which aren’t. And not knowing those rights, can’t see them being encroached.