Since 2020, Joe Biden’s support among working-class voters of all races has fallen alarmingly. Here are seven ways he and his party can reverse the slide.
I’m insulting the intelligence (or, the education / choice of worldview) of someone who wants to look at a large analytical and hard-to-understand problem through an ancedotal lens, and actively rejects someone who wants to talk about the numerical aspect as “talking down” to them. I feel comfortable insulting that way of being because to me it’s very wrong. It’s not done out of hatred or anything for someone who does that, but they are making a mistake yes, and it’s a deceptively infectious mistake in a way that makes it worthwhile to call out. In my opinion.
How much are you scared about Trump being in office that you will bash people for criticizing democrats?
Pretty sure I posted an excerpt elsewhere in this thread that was highly critical of most Democrats’ strategy, and earlier today I posted a video of Biden fucking up the response to a question about “anti-Semitic” protestors, and briefly talked about how he fucked it up and why. Criticizing Biden or Democrats I think is great. If I think the criticism is wrong (or particularly if I think the pattern of thinking behind it is wrong) then I’ll “bash” the person doing it, yes.
I’m insulting the intelligence (or, the education / choice of worldview) of someone who wants to look at a large analytical and hard-to-understand problem through an ancedotal lens
Most people don’t care about broader economic trends when they’re deciding which bill to not pay this month. Democrats have forgotten how to speak to that.
Nope, but calling people who are suffering antivaxxers because they don’t slap on a big doofy fake grin and pretend that Biden is their fucking savior is insulting.
Why are you so hostile to the idea of objectively trying to determine what is and isn’t working, and who is and isn’t helping the situation?
And I didn’t call anyone suffering an antivaxxer. I sort of called PP_BOY an antivaxxer, but that was specifically because he used antivaxxer style arguments.
Okay. Let’s try the other part, then. Why are you so hostile to the idea of objectively trying to determine what is and isn’t working, and who is and isn’t helping the situation?
I already explained what I meant by what I said about antivaxxers.
If you’re up for talking based on me being the absolute 100% authority on what I am claiming, and what I meant when I said something, then let’s rock. That’s productive conversation. I’ll extend the same courtesy to you. If you’re wanting to engage back and forth with me to any extent on either of those topics or say that I didn’t really mean or believe something, I actually meant something different that you picked out, then you need to find someone else to talk to.
(And, more broadly, I would say that you should stop doing that as a general rule, if your goal is anything other than creating pointless bickering and wasting both participant’s time.)
I’m insulting the intelligence (or, the education / choice of worldview) of someone who wants to look at a large analytical and hard-to-understand problem through an ancedotal lens, and actively rejects someone who wants to talk about the numerical aspect as “talking down” to them. I feel comfortable insulting that way of being because to me it’s very wrong. It’s not done out of hatred or anything for someone who does that, but they are making a mistake yes, and it’s a deceptively infectious mistake in a way that makes it worthwhile to call out. In my opinion.
Pretty sure I posted an excerpt elsewhere in this thread that was highly critical of most Democrats’ strategy, and earlier today I posted a video of Biden fucking up the response to a question about “anti-Semitic” protestors, and briefly talked about how he fucked it up and why. Criticizing Biden or Democrats I think is great. If I think the criticism is wrong (or particularly if I think the pattern of thinking behind it is wrong) then I’ll “bash” the person doing it, yes.
Most people don’t care about broader economic trends when they’re deciding which bill to not pay this month. Democrats have forgotten how to speak to that.
Yeah. Hence the good points in the OP article. Doesn’t mean that analyzing the bigger picture suddenly becomes a bad thing to do though.
Nope, but calling people who are suffering antivaxxers because they don’t slap on a big doofy fake grin and pretend that Biden is their fucking savior is insulting.
Why are you so hostile to the idea of objectively trying to determine what is and isn’t working, and who is and isn’t helping the situation?
And I didn’t call anyone suffering an antivaxxer. I sort of called PP_BOY an antivaxxer, but that was specifically because he used antivaxxer style arguments.
Don’t lie.
Okay. Let’s try the other part, then. Why are you so hostile to the idea of objectively trying to determine what is and isn’t working, and who is and isn’t helping the situation?
Objectivity doesn’t involve calling people who you hate because they’re poor in spite of Biden being president antivaxxers.
I already explained what I meant by what I said about antivaxxers.
If you’re up for talking based on me being the absolute 100% authority on what I am claiming, and what I meant when I said something, then let’s rock. That’s productive conversation. I’ll extend the same courtesy to you. If you’re wanting to engage back and forth with me to any extent on either of those topics or say that I didn’t really mean or believe something, I actually meant something different that you picked out, then you need to find someone else to talk to.
(And, more broadly, I would say that you should stop doing that as a general rule, if your goal is anything other than creating pointless bickering and wasting both participant’s time.)