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    6 months ago

    Eh…

    The reason is because NY voters are so progressive, the wealthy throw insane money at statewide primaries.

    This is the person that appointed the head of the appealate court.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathy_Hochul

    An “independent Democrat” that was Cuomo’s running mate and won the election after he was kicked out.

    The voters didn’t want her, but because it’s NY she still beat the Republican, but it was the closest governor race in 30 years for NY.

    Neoliberals want to keep the current pro-wealrhy system just as much as republicans, because they have the same donors.

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        6 months ago

        “fiscally conservative, socially liberal”.

        Meaning they want minorities to sit down and shut up, which is more liberal than Republicans. But they still want the oligicarhial society where money gets you everything like Republicans.

        It’s not what people want, but the rich bought both major parties, so we don’t get a choice the vast majority of the time.

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          6 months ago

          Neoliberal economic policies have nothing to do with liberal social policies. They are as linked as the German Nationalist Socialist Party was to socialist economic policies. Whenever these two words come up, someone invariably links the two as though they are spiritual cousins, and I don’t like that. It should be very clearly stated each time these words are conflated, or compared, that neoliberalism liberal, and that people who would describe themselves as liberal are entirely against neoliberal economic policies, which are largely carried out by corrupted politicians on both sides of the political aisle. Lest we mince words; neoliberals are at the opposite end of the political spectrum to liberals.

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            6 months ago

            So you were asking just about the economic policy when I was talking about neoliberal politicians?

            Sounds like you just got confused bro

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              No, you’re confused, bro. ‘Liberal’ is both a political identifier people use for themselves and others, and a series of policies and political ideals. Neoliberalism is a series of economic policies practiced by conservatives, regardless of the (D) or ® next to their names. If we were going to describe someone as a neoliberal, which people generally do not, the person being described would be almost the exact opposite of someone who would be described as liberal. The thing you said about being fiscally one way and socially another isn’t the definition of neoliberalism, that’s just an old line people say when they’re ashamed of being conservative and don’t want to come off dumb.

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                6 months ago

                Neoliberalism

                Yeah. But we were talking about neoliberals…

                Specifically modern day American ones…

                Like, when someone mentions Democrats, do you go on a rant about what democracy is?

                When we talk about republicans, do you talk about republics?

                If someone mentions a green party candidate, do you tell them it’s just blue and yello mixed together?

                they’re ashamed of being conservative and don’t want to come off dumb.

                Yeah, neoliberals say it all the time. Not in the exact words, but that’s their stance. It’s what I said in the beginning…