Summary

Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, Kamala Harris’ 2024 running mate, has suggested he may run for president in 2028.

Reflecting on the Democrats’ loss to Donald Trump and JD Vance, he admitted: “A large number of people did not believe we were fighting for them in the last election – and that’s the big disconnect.”

Walz said his life experience, rather than ambition, would guide his decision.

Though his VP campaign was marred by gaffes, he remains open to running if he feels prepared.

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    Tim Walz unleashed would have won this.

    He was hamstrug by Harris. He’s likely the dem’s best choice for 2028.

    So of course they’ll run Newsome or Shapiro or Hillary Clinton again because they’re a bunch of idiots.

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          Yeah, they would have blamed all the inflation on our first woman president and used it to denounce women for another half a century. If she helped Israel she would have been called out for Genocide just the same. If she didn’t she would have been called weak and emotional, unfit to be president.

          Really it was a no win situation for her.

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      Yep. I remember a time when the Beltway insiders were acting like Amy Klobuchar was a rising star or some such, LOL.

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    Walz was great in 2024. He had enthusiasm and actually answered the interviewers’ questions. I would have preferred the symbolic victory of a black woman president, but I like Walz better as an individual person. I think he could have won if he’d been the presidential candidate. Well, Harris won too, but I mean he could have won even with the voter suppression stealing all those democratic votes.

    President Walz and Vice President Cortez is the future we need. But probably not the future we’ll get.

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      I would have preferred the symbolic victory of a black woman

      Really? Electing president by the color of the skin and/or sex? You totally deserve the current president then. He perfectly symbolizes your values: racism, sexism and degeneratism.

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            Just for shits and giggles, I’ll try giving an actual argument.

            In 2016, Hillary Clinton was right. It was her turn. She won the popular vote. I hate everything about that woman. I hate that she’s part of a dynasty, I hate that she rigged the primaries, I hate that her campaign donated money to Trump because they thought radicalising the right would lead to an easy win.

            But she was right. The people did want a woman president, and that’s what they voted for. Walz is a really nice, genial guy. I like him. If he were a woman, I think he’d be a different person, or he’d not be a politician. Because to be a woman in the heart of the patriarchy, you need to be strong. You have to have unbreakable armour with no cracks. If the sexist system is challenged, then maybe the next woman president can be a nice person like Walz. But if we keep on having this system where women have to fight to be taken seriously and then aren’t liked for being fighters, then we’re never gonna have equality.

            I don’t really care all that much about how good Harris is with a spreadsheet. Her debate and interview performance is important to me in a primary, not in a presidential election. At that point, I’m thinking about the future. About the girls who are going to become women in government. I want them to have more role models. I care way more about that than if Harris is nice, or if her budget plan is perfect.

            I think Harris can be what America needs better than Walz can. Personality is only important in an election, symbolism is important in the white house.

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    Thinking there is going to be a real election in 2028 is the most optimistic thing I’ve heard in a while.

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    Idk who needs to hear this, but Tim Walz is pretty moderate and centrist. You’re not going to unite the splintered left with Tim Walz.

    The biggest barrier Democrats have is that left leaning voters are not going out and voting for them.

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      Well a genocide supporter won the presidency so… I think you’re wrong.

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        And yet the majority of people eligible to vote dont want him in office. What does that tell you?

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    I really do think Tim Walz has a real chance. A very likeable guy.

    Doesn’t hurt that he’s white and male, too.

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    The Harris campaign had to cover the governor’s tracks when he tripped up during a California fundraiser by stating that the constitutionally-mandated system used to select the president, otherwise known as the electoral college, “needs to go”.

    How the hell is that a gaffe? It’s both the truth and exactly what people want to hear. Any lib who thinks like that needs to kindly keep their mouths shut for the next four years. This country needs radical change, the only choice you get is which one you want.

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      The pearl-clutching Tone Police in the Democratic Party are nothing if not exhausting, that’s for sure.

      The Republicans can and do say just about whatever the fuck they want, and that’s sanewashed, and overlooked, and brushed under the rug, sometimes even celebrated, but the tone police in the “liberal media” and the left, and the Democratic Party itself will be there, wagging-finger at the ready, if some Democrat misses a semicolon .

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      Here, let me grab a sharpie and fix that.

      The Harris campaign made a cowardly attempt to walk back the governor’s statements when he said during a California fundraiser that the broken election systems used for gerrymandering and enabling the double elections of Donald Trump, “needs to go”.

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      and exactly what people want to hear

      It’s what people who care about democracy want to hear. That certainly isn’t everyone.

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      Just guessing, but it might be a gaffe because it could be skewed to sound like he doesn’t believe in democracy. Of course, this makes no sense because Trump has quite literally said that we might not need another election in four years.

      A more careful statement might have been, “the electoral college needs to be replaced with a system where every citizen’s vote has the same magnitude.” If that’s not the mathematical ideal of democracy, I don’t know what is.

      Edit: For you pedantic mathematicians, I’ll add that everyone’s vote should have the same magnitude, and that magnitude should be greater than zero.

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        If that’s not the mathematical ideal of democracy,

        That is the mathematical ideal of populism.

        Democracy is “government by consent of the governed”; There is no good way of democratically electing a singular individual. Which is why the presidency should be little more than a figurehead, with very little actual authority.

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      i’m not even sure what that text is supposed to be referencing?

      I assume it’s not literally the message itself, because that would be kind of broad. I’m guessing he just said it weirdly, and that bothered people, because of course it did.

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    Honestly, he was OK as a candidate, but he didn’t wow me, and he shit the bed in the debate which imo makes him a poor choice. He wasn’t as bad as “they’re eating the dwawgs” but he really blew it when they asked him about his time in China. All he had to say was that he was there around that time and maybe he misspoke, but what matters was the sentiment. It’s a really easy question to answer instead he just fumbled his words like crazy.

    He said he’s notoriously bad at debating, and imo that’s like saying I’m really bad at taking tests. So you are saying that you aren’t good at the part where we find out what you know? You can’t articulate your positions without a teleprompter? If you can’t debate, then you must not be that fervent about them imo, and the person that takes on trump, (assuming we have a real election) needs to be able to call him on his bullshit to his face. I think Walz had way too much of an aww shucks vibe. He’s too “Minnesota Nice”. We need AOC.

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      I’m the opposite. I know that snappy comebacks on live stages are not what make a presidency great. Even if someone can’t give immediate responses in a debate, I can respect them if they display anger and passion when appropriate, and reason and negotiation when that’s appropriate. You might be overestimating that a president needs to be an image of perfection all the time to every single person, when our current one survived conviction as a sex offender.

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        The ability to do behind the scenes work is super important. It’s half the requirement. But the other half is being able to do in the moment interactions. Look at Trump/VD with Zelenski. Being charismatic and able to handle in-person negotiations with foreign leaders is hugely important.

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          Look at Trump/VD with Zelenski. Being charismatic and able to handle in-person negotiations with foreign leaders is hugely important.

          I’m curious how you’d view that interaction? I bet those with magafied brainz think that was peak charisma, on Bronzo and “JD” "Vance"s part, while normal Americans probably look at that and think they completely shit the bed and embarrassed America.

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    I live in MN. Last year Tim W was having his house renovated. So he rented a house for over 17000 dollars a month for him and his family to live in while his house was worked on. MN tax payers paid for this. Absolutely ridiculous.

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      This is categorically false and I’m pretty sure you know it. The Sunfish Lake house was a possibility on a list of options, but turned down for the high cost. He ended up renting Eastcliff house on the University of Minnesota campus for only $4,400/mo.

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    Is he going to play a centrists or actually move the needle?

    Don’t need another “capitalist Harris”

    Seemed like a genuine awesome dude, love what he’s done in Minnesota but I lack faith that in the democratic party he’ll do any good. That and he needs to work on debating…

    Rather have AOC

    That said better than most of the geriatric pandering democratic ineffective options. Even though he’ll be close to 70…

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      For wast majority of Americans capitalist Harris is actually rapid communist comrade Harris. For significant majority of registered voters her existence is a rampant leftist propane and seven steps too far.
      USians are firmly on the rigth, and unless you fix that, all your exciting candidates will achieve jack shit.

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        For wast majority of Americans capitalist Harris is actually rapid communist comrade Harris.

        You don’t seem like you really have a grasp on US politics.