e; I wrote a better headline than the ABC editors decided to and excerpted a bit more

According to the poll, conducted using Ipsos’ Knowledge Panel, 86% of Americans think Biden, 81, is too old to serve another term as president. That figure includes 59% of Americans who think both he and former President Donald Trump, the Republican front-runner, are too old and 27% who think only Biden is too old.

Sixty-two percent of Americans think Trump, who is 77, is too old to serve as president. There is a large difference in how partisans view their respective nominees – 73% of Democrats think Biden is too old to serve but only 35% of Republicans think Trump is too old to serve. Ninety-one percent of independents think Biden is too old to serve, and 71% say the same about Trump.

Concerns about both candidates’ ages have increased since September when an ABC News/Washington Post poll found that 74% of Americans thought Biden – the oldest commander in chief in U.S. history – was too old to serve another term as president, and 49% said the same about Trump.

Archived at https://web.archive.org/web/20240214133801/https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/poll-americans-on-biden-age/story?id=107126589

Part that drew my eye,

The poll also comes days after the Senate failed to advance a bipartisan foreign aid bill with major new border provisions.

Americans find there is blame to go around on Congress’ failure to pass legislation intended to decrease the number of illegal crossings at the U.S.-Mexico border – with about the same number blaming the Republicans in Congress (53%), the Democrats (51%) and Biden (49%). Fewer, 39%, blame Trump.

More Americans trust that Trump would do a better job of handling immigration and the situation at the border than Biden – 44%-26% – according to the poll.

So that bipartisan border bill stunt was terrible policy, and it doesn’t seem to have done anything for the Democratic party politically

Can we please stop trying to compromise with fascists now?

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    Well, too bad. Those are the only two viable options, so most likely it’s going to be one or the other. The time to do something about it has long passed. All we can do is hope Trump is jailed or either of them die.

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      The democratic primary has hardly started, its literally exactly the time to do something.

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        That’s not how that works. Even if we somehow managed to bypass filing deadlines up get this theoretical candidate on the ballot (that have likely already been printed, and in many cases mailed out), they don’t really have time to get their message out and persuade voters. You don’t just start running for president 3 weeks from super Tuesday.

        The only way Biden isn’t the democratic nominee is if he steps down or is really incapable. And then it’s pretty much guaranteed to be Harris. I don’t think most people want that.

        If democrats wanted a different candidate, they needed to start like 6 months ago minimum.

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            It’s pretty clear the vast majority of people just don’t understand how this shit works. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a bad system. I just don’t see how demanding people take actions so late in the process that it will benefit the GOP is productive.

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              I honestly don’t see what action can be taken at this point. We have to either wait for Trump to get convicted or for one of the two of them to die or become to incapacitated to run. Neither of them will step down unless they have no choice.

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                I do think it’s important to note that Biden likely wouldn’t be running if it weren’t for Trump still (somehow) being a viable candidate. I think he’d agree that he’s too old for this shit, but if it’s going to be either him or Trump, I pick Biden with zero hesitation.

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                  I don’t know. People with the tenacity to get to the presidency cling to power like it was keeping them from dying. I honestly don’t know if he would have dropped out of running for a second term.

                  You don’t have a normal-sized ego and run for president unless you’re Jimmy Carter.

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          And you don’t see that as the end of your country? Nothing else left to do but vote for ham sandwiches? Lol

          I thought y’all liked freedom or some shit.

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            Trust me, I would love for the Republicans to nominate a well qualified candidate - or for us to use something like ranked choice voting so we could pick candidates that closer align with our personal beliefs.

            But until those things happen, in ham sandwich v Trump, I’d take ham sandwich every time.

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              The ham sandwich allowed record oil production, agreed with republicans that the border needs to be armed, breaks strikes, is 80 years old, is guilty of aiding in a genocide, attacked multiple targets in the middle east, and goes behind Congress back to make arms deals.

              See the problem?

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    If 59% think that they are both too old and 62% think that Trump is too old (regardless of Biden), does that mean that 3% think that Trump is too old but Biden isn’t too old, despite the objective fact that Biden is 4 years older than Trump?

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      Age is more than a number. Some people are very sharp at 80. Some are rapidly deteriorating at 60.

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        Nobody is very sharp at 80. What kind of bullshit is this? Would you get in the plane knowing the pilot and copilot were 80+ years old?

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    We have a minimum age to become president, 35, so if that doesn’t qualify as “age discrimination” then a maximum age limit shouldn’t either.
    65 should be the max, you get 30 years to try for the presidency then you’re forced to retire.
    And honestly that should be the maximum age for any elected official, not just the president.

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      In America age discrimination is only illegal once you’re 40 years old…

      If you’re 39 and 11 months, you can be denied a senior position for being too young, even if you have 20 years experience

      Because old people write our laws, and they don’t see a problem with telling a middle aged adult that they’re too young.

      If only one out of two groups have protection, it’s not equaly opportunity, it’s legislated discrimination.

      It’s insane because republicans constantly complain about valid equal opportunity, but never mention the one that’s actually discriminatory.

      It’s especially insane when we have to pretend like an 81 year old magically is immune to scientifically proven medical facts