Do you support sustainability, social responsibility, tech ethics, or trust and safety? Congratulations, you’re an enemy of progress. That’s according to the venture capitalist Marc Andreessen.

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    9 months ago

    Who are all these extremist wackos who don’t already want to abolish capitalism?

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      9 months ago

      Capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other system. It’s not perfect, but neither is any other system.

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        9 months ago

        Industrialization lifts people out of poverty, capitalism sinks them into poverty by stealing the value of their labor as profit.

        Also what’s with the phrase “lifted out of poverty?” The fuck does that mean? Why is this same phrase repeated anytime some criticizes capitalism? It’s like a stock phrase or talking point that makes you sound like a robot.

            • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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              9 months ago

              I mean, around that time, I’m pretty sure steam engines were literally considered ‘stealing from the worker’.

              The same with many other forms of mechanisation.

              It’s not that the luddites were wrong, just that they were easily beaten, because humans can’t compete.

              There are critics and cynics, but the same is happening now around AI.

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                9 months ago

                There’s not a worker in the world who will vote away their own job.

                Unchecked control of the workers for industry will harm us all. We don’t need socialism we need strong unions.

                • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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                  9 months ago

                  There’s not a worker in the world who will vote away their own job.

                  The fuck are you talking about? This happens all the time.

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                    9 months ago

                    No it doesn’t, historically people have literally burned down factories and assaulted those who were replacing their jobs.

                    There’s not a factory in the world with any significant number of workers that find some new innovation that makes all those workers obsolete where the workers go “oh yeah, let’s do that”

                    There are absolutely zero incentives for a worker too to support such a thing. If you think they’re going to somehow magically vote against their own interest and act in favor of the common good no matter the situation…

                    Well that’s very socialist thinking from you.