• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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      Obama wasn’t running on a 39% approval rating you dummy.

      https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/

      Thats what fucking matters. Do you want to fucking beat Trump or not? Whats your priority here? Running Biden or beating Trump? You have to pick one.

      Edit: Oh you want Gallup? We can do Gallup

      https://news.gallup.com/poll/103495/election-summary.aspx

      Clinton at that time had a net favorability 30% higher than JOE FUCKING BIDEN has currently. Obama’s net favorability?

      FUCKING 50% higher than Joe Bidens CURRENT NET FAVORABLY.

      You are INSISTING we crash the fucking car into a brick wall.

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        I see, you’re using “incumbent Presidents approval rating” as “the polls”. For the last few Presidential cycles, incumbents generally win reelection when their approval rating is 40% or higher, and Biden’s is cruising at around 39. But the trend doesn’t get “locked” until the Primaries are over and the conventions start. He is by no means the least popular incumbent, and Biden still has room to improve before the election.

        Despite your assertions to the contrary, I believe Biden and Blinken are both invested in finding a way out of this mess in Gaza. We gave Israel a wide berth right after Oct. 7 , but it’s been months since then and everyone’s patience with Netanyahu is wearing thin. Still, if a ceasefire can be negotiated that will help Biden. That is, if the opposition is about Gaza at all. The opposition in Michigan certainly is. But if Biden can figure out a way out your TikTok feed will find other ways to undermine your support of him.

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          This figure is from polling data I pulled a few hours ago:

          If the election were tomorrow, Biden loses.

          If your primary concern is beating Trump, you need a better candidate than Biden.

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            But it’s not tomorrow, and Hillary has direct knowledge of how much elections can change between March and November.

            Biden needs to improve, no doubt about it, but the answer is not to pull the eject lever. The only way Biden is leaving this race is in a hearse.

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                Sadly, at this point, it would seem you’d need a lot more blue no matter who to take some almost unknown candidate and get them up to speed to win. I haven’t seen anyone suggest a better candidate - I’m trying to even think of the last time the same party won the election when the incumbent wasn’t running. Was it Bush Senior?

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                  I think we’ve got two options though neither have suggested they’ll run. First off, John Stewart. He would actually excite enough voters as nominee, he’s shown himself as an activist in his lobbying for support for first responders and veterans. He could win, easily. People on the left know and love him. He’s very popular. Sure he’s a TV personality, but so was Trump, so its not like its setting some kind of new precedent.

                  Second option, is Shawn Fein. He showed a major W in labor organizing and he has show he can organize at national level, and manage the press in such a way as to get a desired outcome. I think he’s a longer shot, but a better shot than Biden right now. He can lock in the union vote. The problem will be liberals and neo-liberals, since they are largely anti-labor. The neo-liberals aren’t going to cast a vote for a union Democrat. Its a question of if liberals have their heads too far up their own asses to not vote for a labor organizer.

                  We have options. Its not too late to rescue this.