I think you’re confusing electoral lesser-evilism with genuine support. I’m as fed up with ‘Israel can do nothing wrong because history’ types as the next guy, but they’re hardly a majority
I just don’t believe the vast majority of “lesser evil” Democrats because I saw them turn around and enthusiastically cheer on Harris, and then act like someone shot their dog when she lost. If you’re reluctantly supporting 99% Hitler over 100% Hitler, you don’t go to 99% Hitler rallies and you don’t care when he loses.
If you are demanding everyone vote for the people bypassing Congress to send more bombs to the obviously grotesque war criminal country, people are gonna think you support them, because you are.
Do you see me demanding anything? I’m literally only describing what has been my experience around Lemmy, and that your widespread genocide support is just your twisting of what people are actually saying. I think your hostile comment proves my point
I was using ‘you’ rhetorically rather than accusing you of anything. IDK how you see that as a hostile one. I’m just explaining why people get rubbed the wrong way by the the vote blue brigade.
The endpoint of the lesser evilism voting is that you’re browbeating people to not protest vote and instead vote for one of the two parties, both promising more genocide, one of which is directly implicated in an entire year of it so far.
To any outside observer ( the people you’re trying to sway) it still looks like you support them and everything they’ve done.
I know, it’s the age old reform or revolution debate, nothing new. It’s hardly genocide support. Full throated support of Israel’s flattening of Gaza gets you buried in downvotes, even on World
Trying to run a third party is the only viable reformist track- the democratic party is totally unresponsive to reform attempts- recall how Obama personally intervened to stop that last time. He even dismantled his own electoral apparatuses after his first run.
I think you’re confusing electoral lesser-evilism with genuine support. I’m as fed up with ‘Israel can do nothing wrong because history’ types as the next guy, but they’re hardly a majority
I just don’t believe the vast majority of “lesser evil” Democrats because I saw them turn around and enthusiastically cheer on Harris, and then act like someone shot their dog when she lost. If you’re reluctantly supporting 99% Hitler over 100% Hitler, you don’t go to 99% Hitler rallies and you don’t care when he loses.
People are actively censoring and denying any responsibility from the Democrats regarding the genocide in Gaza.
People are utter the words “Kamala was not perfect” while she is an active participant in a genocide.
It is not “Israel can do nothing wrong because history”. Democrats are the main responsible party. Seemingly they can do no wrong because lesser evil.
Have you ever watched one of the dystopian Biden state department briefings? It is lie after lie after lie.
If you are demanding everyone vote for the people bypassing Congress to send more bombs to the obviously grotesque war criminal country, people are gonna think you support them, because you are.
Do you see me demanding anything? I’m literally only describing what has been my experience around Lemmy, and that your widespread genocide support is just your twisting of what people are actually saying. I think your hostile comment proves my point
I was using ‘you’ rhetorically rather than accusing you of anything. IDK how you see that as a hostile one. I’m just explaining why people get rubbed the wrong way by the the vote blue brigade.
Rubbed the wrong way is understandable, but that’s not supporting genocide. They’re not and I think you know that
The endpoint of the lesser evilism voting is that you’re browbeating people to not protest vote and instead vote for one of the two parties, both promising more genocide, one of which is directly implicated in an entire year of it so far.
To any outside observer ( the people you’re trying to sway) it still looks like you support them and everything they’ve done.
I know, it’s the age old reform or revolution debate, nothing new. It’s hardly genocide support. Full throated support of Israel’s flattening of Gaza gets you buried in downvotes, even on World
Trying to run a third party is the only viable reformist track- the democratic party is totally unresponsive to reform attempts- recall how Obama personally intervened to stop that last time. He even dismantled his own electoral apparatuses after his first run.
Is that genocide support tho? You’re calling them genocide supporters. I am not discussing the merits of third party voting with you