It’s like you’re expecting national policy to turn instantly based on protests. That’s now how the world works, unfortunately. Things take time.
It’s terrible, I’m not in any way trying to downplay the genocide that is happening. But Israel and the US have been firm allies for a long time. Change won’t come quickly. And it won’t come at all if Trump is elected.
Ok then expand on this claim I know exactly what you mean. Be specific. Explain how we can know which protests will and won’t work and explain what time frame we can expect.
Ok then expand on this claim I know exactly what you mean. Be specific. Explain how we can know which protests will and won’t work and explain what time frame we can expect.
Ah, gotta call in the mods when I call you out? Fair enough, I wasn’t very civil (though I’m convinced you’re not arguing in good faith to begin with).
Let’s try again.
Roflmao, I have to do all that work to justify voting against fascism?
Kindly go ply your goalpost-moving trade elsewhere, perhaps under a bridge? That is where those who don’t argue in good faith are most welcome, as I understand it.
You’re so right. That’s why nothing has ever changed. Women still can’t vote. PoC still use separate bathrooms. Sodomy is illegal and gay people can’t get married. How wise you are!
You’re under the impression all of these things were achieved with nothing more than people standing around with signs? No work stoppages? No violence? No protest votes?
And if you don’t then again I ask, what are you recommending we do?
You’re under the impression all of these things were achieved with nothing more than people standing around with signs?
Wow, weird, I don’t remember saying that at all! Not sure where you got that notion.
No work stoppages? No violence? No protest votes?
Work stoppage is a form of protest. Violence, while not always necessary, has been useful in some occasions, but is often first used by the ruling class.
again I ask, what are you recommending we do?
I think I’ve already told you. Vote against fascism, and also, and this is the key one and most important: fuck off.
It’s like you’re expecting national policy to turn instantly based on protests. That’s now how the world works, unfortunately. Things take time.
It’s terrible, I’m not in any way trying to downplay the genocide that is happening. But Israel and the US have been firm allies for a long time. Change won’t come quickly. And it won’t come at all if Trump is elected.
You’re the one who claimed protesting works. If it did we would see material changes resulting from protests. We don’t. Protests obviously don’t work.
If your claim is “protests change policy decades later sometimes” then state that plainly.
Protesting does work. It just doesn’t result in immediate change. Nothing results in immediate change. Expecting it to is childish.
Ok then expand on this claim I know exactly what you mean. Be specific. Explain how we can know which protests will and won’t work and explain what time frame we can expect.
Ah, gotta call in the mods when I call you out? Fair enough, I wasn’t very civil (though I’m convinced you’re not arguing in good faith to begin with).
Let’s try again.
Roflmao, I have to do all that work to justify voting against fascism?
Kindly go ply your goalpost-moving trade elsewhere, perhaps under a bridge? That is where those who don’t argue in good faith are most welcome, as I understand it.
Have a nice day!
So you can’t. Got it.
Protesting doesn’t do shit.
You’re so right. That’s why nothing has ever changed. Women still can’t vote. PoC still use separate bathrooms. Sodomy is illegal and gay people can’t get married. How wise you are!
Again, kindly, civilly, and politely fuck off.
You’re under the impression all of these things were achieved with nothing more than people standing around with signs? No work stoppages? No violence? No protest votes?
And if you don’t then again I ask, what are you recommending we do?
Wow, weird, I don’t remember saying that at all! Not sure where you got that notion.
Work stoppage is a form of protest. Violence, while not always necessary, has been useful in some occasions, but is often first used by the ruling class.
I think I’ve already told you. Vote against fascism, and also, and this is the key one and most important: fuck off.
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