Built on unearned hype.

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    15 hours ago

    It’s not for you. Its for corporations who want to fire half their staff and replace them with an algorithm. That’s why it has such a high valuation.

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      14 hours ago

      Those corporations are about to find out the fun way that these algorithms, in their current and near-future states, cannot replace human beings.

      Well, except for maybe lazy copywriters who pump out pointless listicles and executives who do - whatever it is they do - but any non-trivial task requiring creativity and understanding is beyond these tools.

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        You’re assuming that they care about running a viable service or product.

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          9 hours ago

          The hope is that their customers care. Or their customer’s customers.

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        • Computers might be good at numbers and typesetting, but we’ll always need human secretaries and phone operators to keep things running.
        • They might be able to beat a novice, but no computer will ever beat a human grandmaster at chess.
        • Okay, then they can’t beat humans at Go or poker.
        • Any non-trivial task requiring creativity and understanding is beyond these tools. ← you are here
        • AI-run corporations will never be able to outcompete ones with ones with human boards and CEOs.
        • An AI scriptwriter could never win an Oscar.
        • I’m voting for the human candidate for president, I don’t think the AI one is up to the task.
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          “When I was young, they told me that one day, AI would do the menial labor so that we would have more time to do what we love - like art, music, and poetry. Today, the AI does art, music, and poetry so that I can work longer hours at my menial labor job for lower wages.”

          Also, on point one, I still see a lot of job hirings for personal secretaries and people for data entry and to take minutes at meetings, and plenty of people complaining about not being able to actually talk to somebody on the phone to get their problem solved.

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            Your grandmother (or great grandmother depending how old you are) had to spend hours of hard labour every day to wash clothes dishes and rooms with just a tub of water a broom and a mop. Now all that takes maybe 20 minutes of light labour with a vacuum, dishwasher and washing machine. Technology absolutely has reduced drudgery

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              Mate, the horse whip and the wheel were Technology back when they got invented.

              It’s a massivelly generic word.

              Absolutelly some Technology has reduced drudgery. Meanwhile some Technology has managed to increase it (for example: one can make the case that the mobile phone, by making people be always accessible, has often increased pressure on people, though it depends on the job), some Technology has caused immense Environmental destruction, some Technology has even caused epidemics of psychological problems and so on.

              Not only is there a lot of stuff in the big umbrella called Technology, but the total effect of one of those things is often dependent on how its its used and Capitalism seems especially prone to inventing and using Technology that’s very good for a handful of people whilst being bad for everybody else.

              One can’t presume that just because something can be classified as Technology it will reduce drudgery or in even that it will be overall a good thing, even if some past Technologies did.

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              I’m well aware of switchboard operators. Computers were originally a profession as well.

              Secretaries are still all that, both using digital tools as well as physical. They weren’t replaced by any of those programs. They just changed how they do their job. They schedule your meetings for you now in their cell phone instead of on a desk-sized paper calendar mat.

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                10 hours ago

                Alright, since you find this such an important issue, consider the first bullet point cropped off of my humorous list of milestones.

                Doesn’t change the underlying point.

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              Not the best analogy. The glue factory was a thing while horses were a primary tool for transport and heavy labour. And horses were treated appallingly. Now that they’ve been made redundant, living standards for horses have improved dramatically and the glue factory is long gone (though their population has also reduced significantly).

              We can only hope for a similar outcome for ourselves.

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                Before the car there were three to four people per horse

                There are currently about 140 people per horse.

                So if you want to cheer on taking the world population from 8.6 billion to about 188 million, treating us better, I can’t say I’m a big fan.

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                    11 hours ago

                    You hope for a similar outcome for ourselves.

                    The outcome for the horses is less than ideal. The population was reduced by 33x. Sure they’re treated better now as their leisure animals or sport animals. But I do not wish for their outcome on humanity.

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          I would argue that there’s neither understanding nor creativity happening. It’s guessing, aping, remixing, which is impressive enough.

          It’s a machine that knows everything, but understands nothing.

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            And yet it’s accomplishing those tasks. I guess that means “understanding” wasn’t necessary for them after all.

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          12 hours ago

          You forgot maintenance and security. They need constant surveillance and maintenance.

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          13 hours ago

          I’m voting for the human candidate for president, I don’t think the AI one is up to the task.

          Don’t blame me, I voted for Kodos_bot

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      11 hours ago

      An AI chatbot for a cloud service I use helped me find the right documentation for setting up SSO. It’s not all bad. But the way it’s pushed is bad.