• Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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    23 days ago

    You’re insulting us by being here. Go back to sucking Putin’s dick.

    I was at a shitty crustpunk bar once getting an after-work beer. One of those shitholes where the bartenders clearly hate you. So the bartender and I were ignoring one another when someone sits next to me and he immediately says, “no. get out.”

    And the dude next to me says, “hey i’m not doing anything, i’m a paying customer.” and the bartender reaches under the counter for a bat or something and says, “out. now.” and the dude leaves, kind of yelling. And he was dressed in a punk uniform, I noticed

    Anyway, I asked what that was about and the bartender was like, “you didn’t see his vest but it was all nazi shit. Iron crosses and stuff. You get to recognize them.”

    And i was like, ohok and he continues.

    "you have to nip it in the bud immediately. These guys come in and it’s always a nice, polite one. And you serve them because you don’t want to cause a scene. And then they become a regular and after awhile they bring a friend. And that dude is cool too.

    And then THEY bring friends and the friends bring friends and they stop being cool and then you realize, oh shit, this is a Nazi bar now. And it’s too late because they’re entrenched and if you try to kick them out, they cause a PROBLEM. So you have to shut them down.

    And i was like, ‘oh damn.’ and he said “yeah, you have to ignore their reasonable arguments because their end goal is to be terrible, awful people.”

    And then he went back to ignoring me. But I haven’t forgotten that at all.

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      23 days ago

      Wow. How do you write out all of that about the importance of not giving way to even the slightest bit of fascism and then defend a president who is FUNDING A GENOCIDE.

      The “shitty crustpunk bar” is called the Democrat party and it’s already been taken over by genociders and you are perfectly fine with still drinking there.

          • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
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            23 days ago

            You seem to think that everything is black and white. Nothing is, it’s all shades of grey. No politician is perfect, No party is perfect. Nothing changes overnight, especially with foreign policy.

            The US political two party system is bullshit, but it is what we have to deal with currently. Both of these parties support Israel historically, regardless of whatever propaganda anyone is trying to spin about the current genocide. US foreign policy has backed Israel since it was created, that isn’t going to change overnight. Us foreign policy has also funded and supplied weaponry to many groups we later list as terrorist organizations that target the US. It’s almost like this shit is complicated even if the morality of the situation isn’t.

            Your point about genocide is valid, and the current Zionist government in Israel has clearly gone way too far. However, your comments clearly assume everyone here supports that, which obviously isn’t true, and you’re intentionally misrepresenting everyone else in this thread. That’s why you’re getting all this negativity. You’re intentionally turning all of these into strawman arguments and backing those up with other various logical fallacies to try and support your intentionally flawed strawman argument.

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              23 days ago

              You seem to think that everything is black and white.

              The person I replied to likened me to a Nazi.

              (Even though they’re the one supporting a party conducting a genocide.)