• Xanis@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    We really need you to pull your head out of your ass. The extremely simple reality follows, and I am speaking for every reasonable person:

    The situation in Gaza is not supported by us. It’s evil. It should not be happening. We condemn it. However, we also recognize that around our elections some war or conflict occurs. Moreover, possibly more than any other time in modern history, we are educated.

    It is precisely the idea of malicious and evil persons intent on causing as much harm as possible why we must turn inward and focus on stopping more damage from occurring. Harris, Walz, Biden, they are not the same. We need you to back up and look at the larger picture. In fact, traditionally Republicans have used wars and conflict to distract the Left leaning voting bases. They know their supporters will, quite literally if you let them, go in guns blazing in support of war, all of them yelling some false patriotic zing of a bad battle cry. Meanwhile, the rest of us condemn it in various ways and that breaks us apart.

    Look, I understand your frustration. To you it must appear as if we are okay with people dying. We’re not. We just accept that if Trump, and more importantly the people who coerce their way into certain positions, are allowed to take the Presidency that it will get worse. Much worse. We aren’t willing to let that happen due to ethical or moral quandaries. As gross as it is to have to turn inward and focus here when people are being killed. We have a job to do.

    Fail that and we may as well apologize to the entire world.

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      3 months ago

      The situation in Gaza is not supported by us.

      But it is. It is supported by Biden. Biden is protecting Netanyahu at the United Nations, as well as supplying money and weapons.

      Biden could stop what’s happening with a phone call.

      But he won’t do anything unless there are electoral consequences. That’s politics, and Biden is a politician.

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        3 months ago

        It works both ways and they know that. They’re aware that those of us that do care also know we need to beat Trump. Our consequences are greater than theirs. The push for Harris-Walz is in acknowledgement of this and an opportunity for us to have a voice.

        Trump enters THE seat of power and your words won’t only fall on deaf ears, there may be provisions created to silence you as well. You obviously don’t like it, this is how it is. We have to do it one step at a time. That is the current limit of our voice, and the step is pointing towards stopping Trump and dissolving the modern Republican Party.

        Right now it’s either help support the people who may listen, or let in those that have literally said they will make it worse. Stubborn as you are I’m sure you can weigh the odds on this one.

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        Vote for Superman if you must, but he won’t do anything for Gazans because he is not real. You can’t punish the people asking Israel nicely to stop killing people by withholding your support and allowing people into power that want more death and destruction.

        The message that sends is they need to move further right, send more weapons, start killing more people directly, withhold aid, give cart blache to the IDF because the only people that vote are the people that want the Palestinians dead.

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          the people asking Israel nicely to stop killing people

          The Democrats are not asking Israel to stop. The Democrats are proving Israel with war funding and weapons, and protecting Israel from consequences at the United Nations.

          They’re politicians. You can’t judge them by their words. Only by their actions.

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            I see a material difference between people that cheer death and destruction and those with the decency to lie about it.

            Words can effect change with people capable of shame and self reflection.

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              2 months ago

              I see a material difference between people that cheer death and destruction and those with the decency to lie about it.

              I don’t see a difference.