• OccamsRazer@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    When you say “Republicans”, are you referring to politicians or to the roughly half of the country that votes Republican? Because I kind of agree with your take if it’s regarding politicians, but even then it should apply to all of them. If you are referring to everyone who votes Republican, then you are so far off base that I don’t even know where to start.

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      9 months ago

      I’m referring to a large number of both politicians and voters who hold these sentiments, whether consciously or unconsciously. People who vote republican because of habit or whatever instead of ideology don’t count although I do think that’s shortsighted, and there are some republicans who genuinely believe in the fiscal or deregulation sides of things etc.

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      9 months ago

      If they vote Republican, they condone the violence associated with it. There is no separation between the two.

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          9 months ago

          All of it. State violence against the poor and minority groups; corporate violence against the wage-earner; radicalized lone wolf violence against the public.

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            9 months ago

            And you place the blame for all of that on Republicans? What a good little for soldier you are.

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              9 months ago

              Why yes…yes I do. The Republican Party is the home of conservatism now. Conservatism’s goal is to destroy our country and create an oligarchy. This is done through both active and passive violence.

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                9 months ago

                The goal of any conservative movement is to resist change. It’s in the name, and it’s the nature of people who are conservative. There’s nothing about “destroy” or “create an oligarchy” in it. Conservative is closer to the opposite of those. Also, there is very little active violence coming from conservatives, especially compared to progressive movements, and passive violence is a vague term that means whatever you want it to mean, according to your favorite niche cultural movement.

                I feel like you are just throwing around terms without even understanding them or applying any critical thought to them.

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                  9 months ago

                  Beginning with Reagan declaring war on higher education by forcing debt to be incurred by it so that only upper classes could be educated and protect their wealth up to now; " think tanks" pushing public policy to ONLY serve the wealthiest while shitting all over the middle and lower class; to using religion to control women and doom them to being nothing more than incubators; to militarizing the police and cheering for every murder they committed, ALL THE VIOLENCE IS FROM THE RIGHT. NONE AT ALL IS FROM THE LEFT. NONE. ZERO. ZILCH.

                  And now I know that you are part of the fascist brigade here.

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                    Perhaps you could define some terms for me, starting with “violence”, but also “fascist” and “brigade”, because it’s almost like you think violence is any policy or speech you don’t like, and a fascist is anyone who disagrees with your politics. It’s hard to have a discussion when the terms are so subjective, and the condition for civil discourse is that I agree with you.