• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.worldEnglish
    224·
    2 months ago

    Lemmy & the fediverse needs to be more modular.

    We need… something like a “transfer, merge, fork, split” for communities.

    For example, if these guys are just going to nuke that content, another instance should have the opportunity to either fork it, or merge it with another community. Its mostly the same stuff as would have been in c/Politics here.

    And what it does now, is it puts even more editorial power in the hands of fewer people (ones that ml probably) don’t vibe with.

    Classic boneheaded decision.

    • Blaze (he/him)@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      4·
      2 months ago

      We need… something like a “transfer, merge, fork, split” for communities.

      People can do it currently. I’ve done it a few times, for all for cases. You just make an announcement on the community, or on !newcommunities@lemmy.world if you are splitting from a power tripping mod.

      • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.worldEnglish
        62·
        2 months ago

        I meant in a technical sense. As in, hey here is a community with a mod on a power trip. I’m going to clone it, it lives here now: !somewhere@lemmy.world

        For example, we could have cloned this sub and its contents and merged it into c/politics.

        • Blaze (he/him)@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          2·
          2 months ago

          But then what prevents someone from cloning a community to 50 instances, or cloning 50 community to 1 instance? Seems like an easy abuse vector

          • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.worldEnglish
            11·
            2 months ago

            Yeah idk. This was a criticism that I brought up of the fundamentals in lemmys structure early on: it selects for, effectively, clones of “whole reddits”, when it should be set up to support more balkanized instances.

            Basically, lemmy.ml’s c/Politics is functionally redundant to .worlds c/politics; but thats by design.

            What I think would be better would be adding tagging and taking federation a step further. Every post needs a ‘tag’; we steal that part from mastadon. It can have many, but it needs at least one, say #politics in this example.

            Then, on instances, federation happens both at the instance level but also at the community level; communities can federate with other communtiies. But all posts get #tagged on the way in the door. Communtiies can then federate or defederate at will, and if neccessary, a community can “branch”; for example, maybe they want to split off US politics from politics; then you grab all the posts with the #US.

            As far as an abuse vector. Thats just hang wringing. IF your mods are that abusive for a large sub, you’ve got way bigger issues. Which, if it did ever happen, is something that “forking” would solve. Mod on a power trip? No problem. Fork the community.