- cross-posted to:
- news@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- news@lemmy.world
Kamala Harris has the support of enough Democratic delegates to win the party’s nomination for president, according to CNN’s delegate estimate.
While endorsements from delegates continue to come in, the vice president has now been backed by well more than the 1,976 pledged delegates she’ll need to win the nomination on the first ballot.
Harris crossed the threshold amid a wave of endorsements from state delegations Monday evening.
This is testament to how deceived you are by whatever media you consume. There were no other candidates who were allowed into the public discourse, but there were plenty of other candidates running. If there were an actual primary there would have been a lot more.
Names?
At any rate, I don’t think it’s the DNC’s job to support any specific candidate. They made that mistake with Hilary vs Bernie, and hopefully learned from the blowback they subsequently received.
It is an individual candidate’s responsibility to create their own public discourse, this is the process of campaigning. Otherwise it becomes too tempting to use a Presidential run simply to increase one’s own individual fame.
Lastly, perhaps I should have been more specific. I don’t think any strong candidates want the job. I’m sure plenty of weak candidates and frankly, foolish people, would love to have the job because they wrongly think it wouldn’t be that hard.
Find the names yourself. It will be a good exercise in media literacy. They aren’t hidden.
When did I say it’s the DNC’s job to support a specific candidate, or are you agreeing with me? In any case, it sure doesn’t look like they learned anything.
I don’t trust your judgement as to who makes a strong or weak candidate. I certainly don’t trust the judgement of a party establishment that backed Hillary in 2016 and Biden this year.
Yeah, I think you’re just throwing random bullshit around and have no interest in wasting my own time.
You seem to be asserting that you think the DNC should elevate lesser-known candidates to equal stature of a well-known candidate, instead of leaving it to the candidates themselves.
I do not think the DNC should elevate anyone anywhere. They should not support a popular candidate, but they also should not support a lesser-known candidate. They should set a reasonable bar where all candidates that can prove themselves serious, unaided, can participate equally in DNC sponsored events. This should keep out fame seekers that want the profile boost, I have no interest in what some author that wants to sell more books to gullible idiots has to say.
Fine, you’re entitled to your own opinion I suppose.
Based on what? Me never saying anything of the sort?
This is exactly what I’m saying. Would you say that’s happening? What presidential candidates will be given equal time to Harris for a floor speech at the convention? Where were the 2024 primary debates?
Marianne Williamson is every establishment wonk’s favorite “unserious” candidate. Yet she somehow did better than a lot of “serious” candidates in the 2020. Who is or is not a “serious” candidate is dictated by the political and media establishments.
You said earlier you thought a reasonable bar for entering a debate was sound. Now you seem to be complaining about there being no debates even though the only challengers could not meet a reasonable bar. Bit dishonest?
Whatever significant candidates wish to run should be given some floor time. Let me know when one stands up.
No, who is/is not a serious candidate is dictated by the strength of the campaigner and voters. A strong campaigner is able to fundraise from like-minded supporters, as Obama famously did with small-dollar donors that enabled him to match Hilary’s formidable fundraising prowess and obvious establishment support. This establishment/media conspiracy you seem to like is in your head.
Oh, and Williamson never broke 5% vs only 2 other people. In 2020 there were almost two dozen participants.
There were challengers that got the required signatures in 49-50 states. That’s not a reasonable bar for a single debate? The key is that word “reasonable”. The bar we have now is that the establishment media grants them that label, and that’s not reasonable. The press is supposed to be adversarial to power, but today’s mainstream media literally represents power and the status quo.
It’s not exactly a conspiracy, at least not in the mode of a secret cabal of powerful shadowy figures pulling the strings. However, it is absolutely real and understanding it is critical to media literacy. What kind of salary do you think a talking-head makes on MS-NBC? Right out of the gate, how do you think that impacts their perspective on the status quo? I know you see it clearly at Fox “News”, but you don’t think it exists at CNN?
What about local news, that’s pretty independent? The context of this video was part of the reaction that mainstream media had when their cultural hegemony started slipping due to the explosion of independent media. They have largely solved the “problem” now, since strong-arming social media to favor “trustworthy” news sources. The definition of “trustworthy” includes Fox BTW, but excludes all independent news. This was achieved by dragging social media CEOs in front of congress and threatening a massive regulation regime.
Better than Harris with the exception of a two day bump she got by calling out Biden for bad racial policy. Also, 5% with two dozen participants puts her over the average.
The press is supposed to report fact as it exists, not be adversarial to power. Sometimes this will be in support of power, other times, as the NYT ripping into Biden post-debate was, will be adversarial. The signatures are easy to get, that’s just a petition campaign. The bar should be some modest amount of popularity, I think 5% support nationally is where I would personally set it. Again, this is to avoid fame-seeking behavior and the abuse of running for president for personal gain, which we already sometimes see, frankly.
The corporate media is certainly corrupted by their business interests, no question. It’s not about what one individual anchor or personality makes, but what the shareholders demand in terms of increasing their subscriber base and advertiser revenue in search of greater profits. Fortunately the corporate media does not wield nearly the power it has in years past, they’re slowly dying in the digital age due to huge amounts of competition.
I am aware of Sinclair, I think most mainstream dems are at this point, after John Oliver did a whole episode on them years ago. Your position here breaks down when you say they’ve “solved” their problem though. They have not. Independent media is still widely prevalent all over social media, as is even outright misinformation. Corporate media revenues are still decreasing in almost all cases, they are still dying.
I said she didn’t break 5%, not that she got 5%. She got far, far less. Her support even in her own state was less than 5%. Regarding Harris, she’s simply moving up on the same ticket now that Biden is finishing out his term and retiring. I agree she did not have significant primary support and was never directly selected by voters. The time to challenge her for the nomination, if anyone wanted to, would be right now. But when even Manchin, a moderate independent now, declines to, I find that unlikely. Harris is an excellent chance to beat Trump, and that’s what democratic voters want. Not a strong progressive or fresh faced challenger offering “real change”.