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    someone who stands up for choice.

    The someone who failed to codify roe when he had a majority and has done fuckall except campaign on it since?

    debate a prosecutor.

    Trump’s staff would never agree to such a debate, they have to know his brain is nearly as mushy as Biden’s. Then again, I’m usually only surprised by malice or incompetence, which isn’t exactly in short supply over there.

    It’s all downhill from here.

    The dems barely scraped by in 2020, and that’s with everyone thinking they’re gonna get the most progressive president since FDR.

    Instead they got an end to covid protections, quadrupling child poverty, more immigrants arrested than Trump, a genocide, and kids beaten up for protesting that genocide, each of which will decrease turnout among democratic constituencies.

    Best of all, you’ll be on the hard, small side of that door.

    When you were a kid, how many years did you watch scooby doo before figuring out that the monster is always some guy with a mask?

    We been hearing this story for literally 10 years at this point. It always plays out the same, trump is either found innocent or gets a slap on the wrist and it has no effect on the right-wing’s political influence.

    If they were gonna lock him up to stop him from campaigning as effectively, the time to do it was months ago

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      I have to say I was against replacing Biden, but seeing how salty some of the want-to-kill-America crowd is getting about it, I am starting to warm significantly to Harris

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        I was pro replacing Biden up until about Thursday of last week, and then I sorta resolved myself to him staying around. On Friday and Saturday I was hopeful that he’d get some kinda boost from something, somewhere, but I didn’t have any ideas as to what that would be.

        When he announced he wasn’t going to be running yesterday I was a bit stunned. I wanted to take a slow approach to processing what was going on.

        After reading what I’ve read today, I’m genuinely excited for a Harris / ??? ticket. I think she probably dropped out of the race so early in 2020 because she was going to be given this opportunity in 2024 if she dropped 2020. Looks like it’s working out now. In retrospect, and putting the pieces together today, I don’t think Biden was ever going to be the 2024 candidate; but that the strategy was to wait to make the switch until after the RNC. In hindsight, I am actually approving of what the Democrats are doing for once and not embarrassed that they’re too conservative, or rolling over.

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        I was pro replacing Biden two years ago, and anti replacing him now. This is a disaster, and I hope Harris can pull it together. It is exactly what Trump and the Republicans wanted.

        But I am encouraged by the first steps her campaign has taken. It only makes me angrier at Biden, though.

        Edit: Ok downvote me like the candidate dropping out after the primaries and before the convention isn’t a disaster, or it isn’t exactly what Trump wanted.

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        My only issue with replacing Biden is that the libs will have a stab-in-the-back myth or some other story to tell themselves instead of “Triangulating our policies to be as dogshit as possible without passing the republicans depresses voter turnout”.

        This is a wonderful case study for that. When the dems lose after 4 years of chasing moderate republicans, are you going to blame democrats for the electoral effects of their policies or the masses without any political power?

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          My only issue with replacing Biden is

          Not true, I am extremely confident that if I look over your history I can find some instance of some reason why Harris is an unsuitable replacement

          the libs will have a stab-in-the-back myth or some other story to tell themselves

          No idea what you’re even talking about

          “Triangulating our policies to be as dogshit as possible without passing the republicans depresses voter turnout"

          I need to make up a little song incorporating half a trillion dollars spent on climate change, massive corporate tax increases, higher wages for working people, and a stronger NLRB backstopping all these union gains from the last few years. I’ve literally typed the list so many times that my brain starts to glaze over and get bored before I can finish typing it.

          Honestly, that’s part of why I didn’t want to replace Biden with Harris, is that Biden was inarguably a step forward for people who exist in the non-millionaire world, which our system doesn’t produce all that often, and I was reluctant to let him go.

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            I’ve literally typed the list so many times that my brain starts to glaze over and get bored before I can finish typing it.

            Just put together the bullet points and let ChatGPT do the rest.

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              Eh, I actually tried that at one point, because the mods got mad at me for copy-pasting a long and detailed list of things with citations that Biden had done, on every one of those arguments whenever someone would ask what Biden has ever done for the average American. I wasn’t happy with the results though. I more or less just resigned myself to typing out the whole list in Jesus-Christ-not-this-shit-again short summary list format.

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                Thank you very much for taking the time and the trouble and for making the rest of us a bit better informed.

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            Not true, I am extremely confident that if I look over your history I can find some instance of some reason why Harris is an unsuitable replacement

            I mean I’ve called her copmala and been horrified at her saying she believed Tara Reid at a debate, and then accepting VP because “It was a debate”, but next to the '94 crime bill guy, she looks like a prison abolitionist, and a rapist’s VP is still an improvement to the rapist himself.

            No idea what you’re even talking about

            You haven’t seen all the articles pissed off at the dems and the news for turning on Biden? Hell even here on Lemmy there were people that way. Even though electorally, only the 65+ “don’t take my car-keys” constituency showed greater preference for Biden than kamala.

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      failed to codify roe when he

      mushy as Biden’s

      Looks like somebody didn’t get the updated script yet.

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        mushy as Biden’s

        My point is that Trump’s team isn’t gonna agree to a debate unless they’re wildly incompetent at their job, since they have to know Trump’s brain only looks functional next to Biden, and now Biden is out of the picture.

        Let me know if you have any other issues with your reading comprehension.

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          Thanks, but I’ll pass on any comprehension tips from a guy who thinks Kamala was ever in a position to codify Roe.

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      “Awfully skittish, Toombs.”

      Truly, this copium gives me even more hopium. Thank you.

      Anyways bystanders observe the immediate tactical pivot to sowing apathy and defeatism.

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      Everyone thinking we’d get the most progressive president since FDR?! What are you smoking. I don’t know a single progressive that thought Biden was a progressive