• alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
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    4 months ago

    thats their sell, basically obama “hope-ishness”

    That works when you’ve had 8 years of Bush and are campaigning on free healthcare, ending the wars, federal legalization of cannabis. It works when you’ve had 4 years of Trump and everyone thinks the democrats will defund the police, provide free healthcare and college, abolish ICE, codify roe, pack the court, etc. Then when you fail to do any of that, you get the shit kicked out of you 2 years later.

    The dems cannot campaign on hope when they’ve demonstrated that they will not give the people what they want.

    This isn’t a messaging problem, it’s a “triangulating yourself to be 2 inches left of republicans and then acting surprised when your base doesn’t show up” for 30+ years problem.

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      4 months ago

      How much of that was blocked in some way by the reps? Every time the peanut gallery chimes in with “what did Dems ever get accomplished?” they never provide the required addendum that reps are obstructionists.

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        They had the house and senate in 2020. We’ve seen how effectively the dems can whip a vote to call a progressive an antisemite, so think of how much easier it would be to do something that every dem’s constituency wants done.

        But there’s plenty of ways to get around congress, we have one of the most powerful executives in the world.

        Don’t like ICE? You choose it’s head. Appoint someone who will fire every officer and sell off/destroy the assets.

        Don’t like overturning roe? Open up military hospitals to provide contraceptive care to civilians. Withdraw federal support from states that ban abortion and if the SCOTUS doesn’t like it, tell them to enforce it.

        We’ve seen Biden go around congress, but it was to send even more arms to Israel faster.

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      4 months ago

      many of biden’s appointees such as his NLRB pick are better than the last 3 democrats.

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      agreed. the Democrats have been abusive. cant really do anything about that until we have a better nomination, funding and voting system.

      trump is a time dilation machine. the closer we get to him the shorter my horizon gets. keeping him away from the near dictatorial powers the supreme court just sanctioned is my primary objective.

      I (and perhaps you) and many others should remember that the age we grew in defined us. the younger see things a little differently

      I am just tryng to make enough space between the ancient vampires and our kids to allow them to have a say in their future.