• Arcturus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Why are people joining .world to begin with? The entire point of this is to decentralize. Joining the by far largest instance beats the entire purpose.

    Join smaller ones like lemmy.one, lemmy.club, lemmings.world, lemmy.zip etc. We might need to start specifically recommending against .world and for general purpose instances like those.

    Also, funny how even reddit allows r/Piracy but not .world lol

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      6 months ago

      Sync had Lemmy.world as the default instance to register a new account (might still be the case, I’m not sure). One of the factors for sure.

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        6 months ago

        So does Voyager, Raccoon, and Eternity. Everything is just defaulting to it and it’s infuriating.

      • Arcturus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        The dev really needs to change that then.

        Perhaps have a system of selecting randomly from a set of hand-picked general purpose instances at sign-up, where having less people gives it a higher chance of being picked (if it’s of at least a certain size of course, to prevent spam etc)

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              6 months ago

              The issue is not about the implementation, but the filter: which criteria do you use to select instances that are eligible for the pool of instances? I’m genuinely asking because I think it takes some time to have a look on instances for people to make the best choice.

    • JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca
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      6 months ago

      Why are people joining .world to begin with?

      Because how it works when you first join is very confusing, and why you would choose any particular server is not clear at all.

      Also, people want to join something that is bigger and more active because it feels like it would be better (more stable, more content, etc.)

      • Evoliddaw@lemmy.ml
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        6 months ago

        In all fairness I applied to 5 Lemmy instances when the Reddit downfall started, including .ca and .world. .ml to date is still the only one to have processed my application. It may have been due to lots of applications at the time but the sheer fact my application is still pending on the other 4 instances leads me to use the one that actually works as opposed to the first one I chose.

        • QuietCupcake [any, they/them]@hexbear.net
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          I think it still has highest number of posts and comments per day or something? It’s no longer the highest number in terms of users, but there is some basic metric of activity where hexbear still is quantifiably at the top. But anyway you’re right about the quality, that’s what’s important.

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      Lemmy is confusing enough for people who are not used to its idea. Everybody new and with FOMO immediately went for the bigger instances.

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      Lemmy.world is also notoriously mismanaged and has had dubious privacy issues in the past, such as their Discord situation regarding user messages

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        dubious privacy issues

        They’re also federated with threads so I wouldn’t be surprised at all. I’m a fool for sticking around in there as long as I have.

    • Blóðbók@slrpnk.net
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      Because they have no basis on which to decide where to go. It’s like buying toothpaste but there are hundreds of options, none of which you know anything about, so you get whichever seems most popular. It minimises the risk of ending up with something which is unpopular for good reasons.

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      6 months ago

      If you join a small instance, the chances are higher that it will a) be poorly maintained and b) fold quicker, forcing you to find another instance to join and re-subscribe to all your communities.

      • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
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        6 months ago

        so long as you’re regularly exporting your profile, moving instances isn’t a big deal anymore.

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              For most users, price and convenience. That’s been made very clear over and over again.

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                Sure, but eventually the lack of freedom and security drives them away when the service enshittifies thoroughly.

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                  That’s what we like to think. Facebook, Google, kinda shows us most users are perfectly happy to continue taking abuse, though

    • Cyyy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      why? because it feels safer to join a big and longer lasting instance than a random one with almost no users. such small instances can vanish from one day to the bext. i once created a account on such a small instance and not even a week later it was wiped from earth, taking my account with it. so it’s no wonder people chooser rather bigger instances.