Jerry Seinfeld’s week of difficult appearances continues, this time in Virginia.
As soon as Seinfeld took the stage for a stand-up comedy set at Chrysler Hall in Norfolk on Saturday night, a man in the audience jumped up and yelled, “Free Gaza,” TMZ reported. The audience immediately began booing the heckler and chanting “Jerry! Jerry!” as another bystander wrestled the protester into a headlock.
Security escorted the man out of the building, but the show was interrupted by other protesters eight times throughout its 90-minute run.
The controversy around Seinfeld’s views stems from his vocal support of Israel — which he visited following the Oct. 7 attacks — and his wife’s $5,000 donation to a GoFundMe for pro-Israel counterprotesters at UCLA after a late April protest turned violent.
Seinfeld didn’t seem bothered by the interruptions, telling the crowd not to boo the man because he had a right to protest.
“This is exciting. I like this,” the comic said as the original protester was escorted out of the venue. “I like a little Jew hate to spice up the show.”
No no, the party line is “fuck yes, blow up more Hamas”….
You’re not supposed to admit they’re children…
The new party line, which I’ve encountered several times in the past few days, is “it’s Hamas’ fault that Israel kills children.”
Few days? That’s been the line for decades.
Do you know how many people have personally told me it’s Israel’s fault that Hamas kills Jews?
Both sides are saying ridiculous shit out of emotion. Let’s not pretend it is just Israel supporters.
When did I pretend that? This isn’t about that.
Both sides of the equation need to be pushed back against.
Not everything needs to be “both sides.”
You scrolled past somebody stating in this very thread that they don’t recognize the right of Israel to exist.
You could have spent a single minute of your day pushing against the ridiculousness of that statement. Instead, you scrolled down and decided to push back on something less ridiculous.
They both deserved push back, but you only chose to push back against the side you aren’t on.
Why is it my personal job to challenge every statement?
You are one of the most active users on the site who spends probably more time than anybody challenging Israel supporters.
But challenging the side you are on when they say clearly abhorrent things?.. Slim pickings.
There’s nothing remotely ridiculous about saying that an apartheid ethnostate does not have a right to exist.
Frankly, no nation has an inherent right to exist, and that includes Israel. A nation is only legitimate as long as it looks after the interests and liberties of its people. All its people. At the end of the day, I don’t give a flying fuck at a rolling donut if Israel exists, Palestine exists, or some combination of the two, or neither. What I care about is that the people who live there have long, happy, free, and peaceful lives, and right now Israel seems to be the biggest obstacle to that, what with the genocide and all.
If you cannot see the difference between: an ethno-nationalist, settler colonialist state with weapons and support from the most powerful military on the planet keeping the people whose land you’re literally stealing in an open-air prison; and, the people that they’ve been oppressing for 80+ years who have turned to violence after literally everything else has failed for nearly a century, so maybe they don’t get murdered by IDF soldiers, and maybe one day they can just live in fucking peace and not have to worry about a bunch of nationalist Jews from New Jersey storming onto their property in the middle of night with AR-15s and forcing them out of the home their family lived in for generations…
If you think these two groups are the same, and this is some “both sides” shit, then you either need a history lesson, or you already know I’m right and you’re full of shit.
You’re “both sides”-ing a literal fucking genocide. Real bad look.
I’m not in support of Israel on this matter.
Ok so why did you feel the need to talk about how many people have personally told you it’s Israel’s fault Hamas attacked as if it isn’t true (and no Israel ≠ the Israeli people just like Hamas ≠ the Palestinian people)?
And buddy, your username is public. It’s not hard to remember it when you say some of the vile shit you’ve said. Hey even the app I use has a feature to highlight users with notes… So please don’t lie to me about your agenda thanks.
I have you in my notes too. It just says “unhinged.”
Future Hamas!
If Palestine became its own state tomorrow, with Gaza and the West Bank, and Israel did everything right as of tomorrow (a big ask, I know), do you think Israel would continue to suffer attacks? For how long? Do you think continued violence is justified because of what Israel is doing now?
I’m interested in a path to peace, but I don’t see one. I don’t like “free Gaza” because what does that even look like?
If it’s just short for “stop genocide” then fine. But I don’t see what it can mean past that.
just to clarify, you realize that there was a path to peace, and then Likud/Netanyahu decided to actively help fund and support Hamas to undermine Palestine as a stable state. Specifically to avoid having to give Palestinians statehood (and a democratic vote)?
that to this day, there are significant numbers of Palestinians who do not have a voice in any form of government.
I don’t know what the path to peace now looks like - the conflict has gone longer than I’ve been alive. They came close and the powers that were decided they didn’t like that, so they fucked the entire region over. the Hamas attack on oct7- while definitely to be blamed on Hamas- is a direct result of those actions.
I don’t know where we’d be had they not taken action to support Hamas over other groups… but it’s very clear both the Israeli far right and Hamas are willing participants in a war that’s mostly just killing civilians. So, the first step absolutely has to be to stop the violence and restore sanity, and then we can get back to working to a more lasting peace.
Awhile ago, shaky, but maybe.
Absolutely. Also to scare their own citizens into supporting them. He didn’t intentionally let Oct 7th happen, but Hamas isn’t a pet to be toyed with, either. He used them as a boogyman, empowered them, and then was surprised when they did a small part of what they had threatened to do.
You understand that but say “Israel will continue to get attacked” like that justifies not letting them be free? And Israel is absolutely free to defend itself, but killing more more journalists in a few months than have ever been killed in any single war, evacuating people then bombing the refugee camps, targeting aid workers, and shooting unarmed civilians in the west bank (where there is no combat) is not self defense.
People shit on America for Iraq and Afghanistan, and yeah, those were pretty fucking bad. Somehow Israel is managing to be worse. Objectively, provably worse.
At least 35,647 people have been killed and 79,852 wounded in Israeli attacks on Gaza since October 7. The death toll in Israel from Hamas’s October 7 attack is 1,139 with dozens still held captive. Source
460,000 deaths in Iraq as direct or indirect result of the war including more than 60% of deaths directly attributable to violence.
You’re saying 36 thousand deaths is worth than 460 thousand deaths. I’m not saying what Israel is doing is justified, but it’s a hell of a lot more justified than whatever the fuck we were doing in Iraq.
Cool. Now do per capita.
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You sure they didn’t let it happen?
The IDF is one of the most capable and well-equipped militaries in the world.
They had reports of training activity. They had been warned by several parties, but the attack still managed.
You don’t see a path to peace because you believe most Gazan’s want to kill all Israelis.
A claim, I might add, that you state as fact and then post links to the supposed source that doesn’t say anything like that at all.
You’re either so incredibly biased you don’t see your own bias while congratulating yourself on how open minded you are, or you’re intentionally trying to lie in a subtle manner to try and sway others.
Given the maliciousness of posting a fake source to claim a non-existent genocidal desire OF A POPULATION CURRENTLY BEING GENOCIDED, I’m guessing the later.
You’re right. Maybe 72% of Palestinians are misunderstood. Maybe they only wanted to drag specific Israelis out of their safehouses in the only neighborhoods they could reach and beat and murder and kidnap those people, but not the rest. They really were going to stop right when the IDF happened to show up. What a coincidence.
A besieged populations support of a military operation that had a lower percentage of civilian deaths by at least two, possibly three, orders of magnitude compared to Israels actions over the last 7 months is a far cry from asking people if they support the slaughter of every Israeli, and you know it.
By that same level of evidence and logic, a higher percentage of Israelis want the entire slaughter of the Gazan population.
I will also point out that there is a secondary form of justice for Palestinian people in the west bank and East Jerusalem then there are for the settlers. Palestinian children frequently get arrested (read kidnapped) and sentenced by a military tribunal with no evidence. Whereas the settlers use the IDF as armed guards while they try to ethnically cleanse villages from the west bank, and if they do get arrested they have a jury trial with standards of evidence. To me, those 15,000 Palestinian prisoners are not prisoners, but hostages.
Prisoner vs hostage
Arrest vs kidnap
Support for a military action vs desire for genocide
It’s all in the words you use, isn’t it?
Thanks for revealing yourself as a subtle genocide defender. I really was curious which one you were.
I’m glad you were able to make the situation so black and white.
It really is.
Any country that intentionally withholds food, medicine, and potable water from a population it considers undesirable is a government intentionally committing genocide.
Is genocide ever justified is a yes or no question. Only one answer makes you a monster
You lied about the results of a survey to imply something the survey didn’t ask in order to slander a population being genocided.
Furthermore, you defended that lie with a self-righteous tirade rather than acknowledging your lie.
It’s rather beside the point but there are multiple surveys of the Gazan population that asks the questions you lied about and came out with a much different conclusion.