My point was that people who have family and friends in Israel demand a ceasefire, and want us to Tell Congress: Demand Biden reinstate UNRWA funding, and have practical suggestions on how to act now ect
So having Chicago -amongst other cities- stand with them for peace, I think it’s great move.
Like Jewish Voice for Peace do? Ask for a ceasefire I mean. Or as they say:
URGENT: Demand a ceasefire now.
Millions of lives depend on it.
Also, hope you don’t mind when they say:
WE HAVE A PLAN TO END U.S. SUPPORT
FOR ISRAEL’S OPPRESSION OF PALESTINIANSJewish Voice for Peace is the largest progressive Jewish anti-Zionist organization in the world.
We’re organizing a grassroots, multiracial, cross-class, intergenerational movement of U.S. Jews into solidarity with Palestinian freedom struggle.
If you’ve been looking for a political home for Jews on the left in this perilous moment; if you’ve been wanting a Jewish community with justice at the center; if you’ve been looking to turn your rage and grief into meaningful, strategic action:
Join us. You belong here.
Personally, I don’t care about these statistics. The point I was trying to make was that under capitalism any industry has the goal to make huge amounts of profit. Coal, nuclear you name it. Nothing is about sustainability, unless it is related to greenwashing. So I don’t trust their approach, including the safety of these places. Also the need for more power is for industry expansion, not to heat our homes for instance.
[By the way, I am not a communist. Mondragon is a model of non-capitalistic industrial development that has been successfully expanding since the 1950’s. By no means am I saying their approach is perfect, nor that perfection is the goal. Their example is important tho cause we can learn from them. For the Cleveland Model, they used Modragon’s input. They refers to Gar Alperorovitz amongst others]
If that’s your take on my comment(s), I would suggest you take a 2nd look at them.
The following is related to SMRs:
And on the problem of Indutrialization some elements can be found here:
What Are Some of the Drawbacks of Industrialization? - Investopedia
Summary of “Seventeen Contradictions and the End of Capitalism” by David Harvey
Would the above satisfy you @JungleJim?
To my understanding we don’t have an energy problem. We have a problem of industrialization in combination with global capitalistic tendencies. No wonder the article mentions the following:
The International Energy Agency, which outlined what many experts say is the world’s most realistic plan to decarbonize, sees a need to more than double nuclear energy by 2050.
Also, taking into consideration how dangerous nuclear accidents are, not only I don’t feel any safer with this technology -no matter how much it is praised- I feel literally scared when I hear statements like:
But a nuclear renaissance is coming, the IEA says.
It’s unclear how the liquidation order will affect Evergrande’s vast operations in the Chinese mainland. As a former British colony, Hong Kong operates under a legal system that is separate, though increasingly influence by, communist-ruled China’s.
In some cases, mainland courts have recognized bankruptcy rulings in Hong Kong but analysts say Evergrande’s is something of a test case.
Let’s see how that goes?
that doesn’t mean you can’t be GENETICALLY Jewish
One cannot be genetically Jewish, since anyone can convert into this religion.
Is that clear enough?
According to zionists and their allies, only.
Take a look at what Jewish Voice for Peace have to say:
Our Approach to Zionism
Jewish Voice for Peace is guided by a vision of justice, equality and freedom for all people. We unequivocally oppose Zionism because it is counter to those ideals.
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Palestinian dispossession and occupation are by design. Zionism has meant profound trauma for generations, systematically separating Palestinians from their homes, land, and each other. Zionism, in practice, has resulted in massacres of Palestinian people, ancient villages and olive groves destroyed, families who live just a mile away from each other separated by checkpoints and walls, and children holding onto the keys of the homes from which their grandparents were forcibly exiled.
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Criticizing zionism and israeli settler colonialism is not antisemetic either.
A ceasefire is totally feasible, with the right amount of pressure from the international community. Well, the west/colonial states could also help by not arming Israel, recognising that Gaza is the biggest open air prison that ever existed/apartheid, recognising the right to exist of Palestine. The dehumanization of Palestinians doesn’t help either. 10000 children dead do not occur in a war, it occurs in a genocide.
Still, even if you are not looking for a timeline, it is not possible to answer your question without taking into consideration how we got here. This is not something that started in October 2023.
Anyways, in case you don’t like reading take a look this speech and you’ll have you answer:
Gaza Genocide Unmasked By Irish Lawyer’s HISTORIC Speech At The ICJ [30:17]
I went from October 2023 to a timeline of the question of Palestine, and then added 2 recent articles.
Most of these supported by links, in order to try and have a conversation in good faith.
What I get from you is:
Kinda leaving out an important part there.
I am leaving literally most parts out. This is why the links are present.
Do you have some sort of constructive comment to add, or should we leave it here?
It would take for Israel to want their hostages back, instead of wanting to continue the genocide of Palestinians.
Hamas recently issued an ultimatum to Israel that there must be a permanent ceasefire in order for the remaining hostages in Gaza to be released.
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Israel’s rejection of Hamas’ initial demand was expected
The following article describes the unwillingness of the Israeli government to prioritise its people, from their point of view.
Weinberg, 27, who spoke to CNN in Tel Aviv’s so-called Hostage Square, where the families have gathered for weeks to protest, was angered by the killing of a top Hamas commander in Lebanon earlier this month - widely attributed to Israel. She said some of Israel’s “military action” is “directly endangering the hostages.”
The country’s leadership “must put the release of the hostages at the top of its priority list,” Weinberg said.
part of the problem was that the Israeli government has two aims: the destruction of Hamas and the return of the hostages.
“But there can’t be two aims because sometimes these aims clash - like the elimination of al-Arouri,” said Weinberg, referring to the drone strike that killed Hamas number two Saleh al-Arouri on January 2.
Is either side even interested in a ceasefire at this point?
Since October 2023, both sides ask for ceasefire under some conditions. Those conditions are not met due to the historical settler colonial background of this conflict.
Some history background is necessary to understand what is happening now in West Asia. I won’t get into it but some key points can be found here:
Historical Timeline on the question of Palestine - United Nations
Born, unborn you name it.
Gaza 100 days on: Stop the War on Children
The killing of 10,000 children. Blasts leading to amputation—sometimes carried out without anaesthetics—and lifelong disabilities. Entire populations, including pregnant women and children, facing hunger, a quarter of them (576,600 people) at catastrophic levels, – that means at the risk of starvation and death. Warnings from the UN children’s agency that nearly 335,000 children under five in the Gaza are at “high risk of severe malnutrition and preventable death”. Thousands of children buried under the rubble and presumed dead.
The balance sheet of 100 days of war on Gaza is grim. It is a dark moment in history that we see on our television screens.
“If there is a hell on earth today, its name is northern Gaza,” in the words of one senior UN official.
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It was reported by Haaretz as well.
Archive link: Israeli Border Police Officers Filmed Attacking Arab Journalist in East Jerusalem
Ok, thanks for the clarification. I see your point and I agree. It’s more the land of white christians, than the land of the free
What do you mean by saying:
stop treating us like foreigners in our own country. We’re Americans.
[edit: I ask in order to understand the statement itself and its relevance to the article]
Intersectionality is a great analytical tool. Jewish Voice for Peace found themselves to be in the intersection of being both Jewish and anti-zionists. German government policies and often German people (even from the left or antifa), fail take this intersection into consideration.
But do we really need this analytical tool for this topic? When a person knows the historical relation between zionism and fascism, why would they support zionists or zionist policies?