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So you are okay with not getting your phone back from authorities…
So you are okay with not getting your phone back from authorities…
That’s not an expectation. The experience is that this became a reality thanks to google, and that it will only get worse in the future. More competition within browsers is the expectation. Better chance for better frameworks to emerge. Eventually it may cause google code to shift into a better overall state too.
When trying to render a relatively simple page consisting few thousands of text lines in a table, any current browser will cause mouse cursor to lag for some time, then you’ll discover it consumes at least 2 GB ~ 4 GB of RAM. YouTube lags like I have 2 cores instead of 16. Any electron app is either clunky or too clunky, also either hungry or too hungry.
I’m sorry but I don’t have time to look up other cases.
I can’t understand how people can continue relying on chrome and derivatives like electron, CEF etc. and not see it as a problem.
No. Majority of all games are not bound by licensing. You should still be able to buy these games in years to come.
I mean people who is not even an audience for now, like children. Or those who is still not born. Or people in Russia.
It’s cool but it won’t help people who’ve yet to discover the game for one reason or another.
it’s the most elegant and cohesive system. My favorite example of this is when you send an email with Mail.app. Pressing send plays a whoosh sound effect and it’s in stereo! Discovering these details over the years has been a delight
Omg an app is able to play a sound!
Not supporting the open nature of hardware and software.
Basically it’s too much of a hassle to make their software run on other hardware or use other software on their hardware.
I mean if they would produce a better UI by using their expertise, how would not becoming an expert in the new thing be better?
I failed to understand the meaning of this sentence. It doesn’t make sense to me. Producing a better ui is not even on the table when we are talking ui frameworks and native programming - you use what’s available, and if you are a graphics designer then maybe you should’ve sticked to that instead. Becoming expert in native ui is super cool but I wouldn’t expect such miracles from everyone. Just producing a valid low level code is enough to meet my standards of performance. That’s because those standards were heavily affected by web frameworks existence.
The reality is that the people paying the engineer are going to want the better UX
And I hoped it would be customers who would pay for a software or a service who would send valid feedback.
AI can assist you if you more-or-less know what you’re doing
Assuming web devs creating apps don’t know what they’re doing?
but a novice replacing proper learning with ChatGPT pairing is going to write some shitty code.
Chances are that code would be much more optimized than anything electron/CEF wrapped.
to actually be up to our code quality standards
Quality standards are great. But seeing companies shipping fixes to simple CSS issues that were breaking some of main app functions made me realize most of them don’t care about quality standards. If that’s how it is and if there will still be a lot of broken stuff across app updates - might as well just go all the way to proper low level languages.
but no one is going to become an expert in something overnight
It’s not like they need to become experts. But also that’s actually possible (at least the effects of that), especially with all the AI around.
Because optimized software is better for industry, people, and environment. Also seeing that some menu or window is not an html page but a native element makes my headache go away because I value my CPU cycles (seeing a cursor doesn’t lag when some complex page is displayed should not be considered a weird fetish) and like it when things don’t do stupid unnecessary stuff both visually and under the hood.
And it could be even less than that depending on specifics.
We have it only because some devs are lazy.
That’s a very bad way to look at things. Just because I have gigabytes of memory doesn’t mean I want to use unoptimized software.
I’d rather not have frameworks based on web browsers. Programming is not that difficult.
Signal is not an alternative to telegram and vice versa. Telegram has too many public communication features that people often use. The nature of signal will prevent it from having similar features.
You don’t understand. This way if some app crashes it will not cause others to crash too.
This is how google introduced the “multiprocess architecture” of Chrome.
Can’t wait to see something using Rust and Tauri.
What about sciter?
That’s better in all cases. But the original comment sounded like “look how I can go to this authoritarian county, encounter police who would ask me for my phone, and remain free and safe afterwards”. That would not be a good idea.