Trying my best and Hoping we all make it o7
Does anyone in this country want war ? Sure there are some deranged PMC neolibs out there but I spend most of time around median or below income people, aka most people, and I’d say even the most reactionary amongst them have no appetite for war. All vibes based analysis really but the disconnect between the “average” person here and the actions/rhetoric of our government just seems so far removed. Not sure what to make of it really.
Definitely although hard to say how exactly because the ones openly belonging to the Moscow Patriarchate are being gradually deplatformed for years.
this is what I was getting at I think when I said it might be viewed as a crucial error, because that group that has been systematically deplatformed can’t be tiny right ? and its one thing to mess with nationality and politics of these people but I feel like attacking the church is unnecessary step too far
It’s not catholicism, there are below 8% of catholics in Ukraine, it’s state sponsored schism in the orthodox church, purely politically motivated and although the docrine remains the same the new de facto state religion supports the ukronazi actions very much and entire situation looks kinda like church support for ustase during ww2, though in this case the Kiev church is more of a puppet, after all, every sincgle church that didn’t complied ended up shaken up by Kiev goons with confiscates and priest imprisonments. Legality of the schism is also kinda dubious, because even if other patriarchates recognized it, Moscow didn’t so it’s outside meddling, something previously heavily criticized in orthodox church.
When I said Catholicism I meant Orthodox I think sorry, I’m not as familiar as i should be with branches of Christianity. Totally agree with you that new doctrine is clearly aligned to push ukronazi agenda, I guess my question is just to what degree is there pushback against this in the Ukraine ? Perhaps its just my preconceived biases but id have thought that even among those in the Ukraine who were on board with russophobia, NATO war ect there must be many who find government attacks on the church unnecessary/unsavory, as it seems from what I gather that that previously existing ukrainian orthodox church was far removed from Russia already and really only took issue with theological type stuff related to the schism (though once again i am theologically illiterate so good chance i am misunderstanding)
Honestly I could see Ukronazi fight against the church being talked about as one of their biggest errors in the future (outside of relying on US for anything lol). Surely this is an unpopular move with vast swathes of Ukrainian population ? I know many of them take their Catholicism seriously, and its not like this church was some bastion of Soviet society, deeply reactionary institution already, just seems unnecessary to force this change
24+ hours since this happened and its just now set in how absurdly brazen an act of open warfare this is. Not that I particularly want WW3 to escalate this month, but how can Iran respond with anything less than retaliatory strikes directly on Israeli controlled territory ?
Took the words out my mouth, truly despise it here.