To be an empire doesn’t mean be different

We will see.

I think that you overextimate the american exceptionalism. In the xx century the europe was destroyed in the ww leaving the usa as the only state not touched by the wars. The rest of the world was lagging techlogicaly. Now the situation is different. Usa is a young country and it is not different from any other.

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No one? The narrative is : fake news and tweets started all this. We need to regulate the internet. As the french revolution was started by the statements of Marie-Antoinette.

It is a link that the reasons of the riots were far more deep that a single tweet. The world is a little bit more complicated that button-> action.

The assault of the refugee hotel was in rotherham, and the riots were mostly in the north of england, in labour areas where the phenomenon of the asian grooming gang were most prevalent. I remember rotherham cause it was the most in(famous) case and also one of the places of the worst riots.

About spreading hate? Like one thousand rapes in one city, like everyone have one friend/relative victim of it and the problem is spreading hate? I hope you are jocking. ( i’m talking about rotherham )

Lol, so ban every news… We have politicians telling worst thing that a simple fake news and no one riot. Maybe a thousand of rapes in one city could cause it. Here ONE rape is a news with the name and the nationality of the criminal. Why the people that havr covered that are not in jail?

Ok, not a rant, a fake news…

false informations , even worst, newspapers publish false information ( rumors ) every day

The line between rants and call for violence is quite blurred in some cases IMHO

Yes, i think you talk about Peppino Impastato , he was killed cause he joked about mafia.

And normaly it is very difficult to be comdemned for a generic rant. It is easier in case of insults or defamtion, but it is mostly an high fee. Jailing a political adversary for a speech ( when we had a lot of political/mafia killing in the past ) is a big no. We had actual people killed for their speech.

I’m not living in uk, i live in italy. I saw every kind of comment written on italian social networks and i have never seen a conviction. When the police had taken the names of protesters, ( not arrested ) we had a public outcry. We had arrest for direct call for violence, not simply rants. So seeing people jailed for rants on twitter scares me. We have actual fascists and communists, both parties were strong, and we had an actual civil war. We have strong linguistic minorities and regional parties. So a lot of people hating each other. Who decide the right speech in such a situation?

Why going so long when we have a near, english-speaking , clean example of a country famous for the free speech. If you have the highest example of human rights why check the rest.

Yes, different kind of censorship in the world. A more broad vision.

In UK don’t ban them, but jail you if they don’t like your posts, more democratic.

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The classic left is different

Italian here: she is not far right as our left it is not left. Meloni is the most pro immigration government in italy in decades. She open the border and we have a massive regular/irregular immigration. She simply lied to her voter base posing as anti immigration party. The far left and m5s were much more strict about new people entering the country. The left and the right in italy are pro capital and pro usa parties so we have mass immigration to lower wages. Both sides.