“Ukraine to be given an excuse why it was baited with a NATO-on-a-stick and thrown away like a broken screwdriver”

Always, always projection, isn’t it. Has the US taught their puppet any other tricks?

this makes libs wanting the war to go on make my blood boil even more

You have no idea… There’s very little patience left for them because of shit like that

Imperialist Colonial Court

Smug lame.ee lib, probably from a cushy Western country that has not seen a war in at least 80 years thinking that they’ll never find out after fucking around. Typical

I meant “post-Soviet Ukraine”, for the sake of simplicity. But if we go this far - let’s also put the Austrian-German puppet (“UNR”), operation Belladonna and the original Banderites on top of all that. There’s little point though - they are still ignorant af.

The difference between libs and chuds at this point in history is in their ability to hide their blood thirst. Also - history starts when CNN, NBC, ABC, DEF, XYZ, DoReMiFaSolLaSi News tells them it ought to start. No mention of 2 US-orchestrated color revolutions in Ukraine, no mention of Nazifying Ukraine since the 90s, no mention of crushing all anti-Maidan anti-coup dissent by those fascists in 2014, no mentions of UAF shelling civilians in the Donbass for 8 straight years… Nothing. Goldfish memory and bloodlust

God, programming.dev libs are even worse than fucking lame.ee-s…

You want to know what an excuse is? Ask these ghouls why they sabotaged the Istanbul talks.

In other words, the most free© and democratic™

30+ years of poverty, misery and capitalist plunder, culminating in a devastating military conflict - all because of the USSR is not around anymore. Yet, they go out and “celebrate” its dissolution, surrounded by rivers of literal shit because the “independent” government stole the money that was set aside to repair the sewage system (Soviet-built, by the way). Fucking cucks…

Seriously, though - the US has the best propaganda money can buy.

I think I heard somewhere that over 40% of Nazi Germany losses occurred in 1944-1945. Something tells me that pulling a Banderajugend trick won’t do any better

Also, the “got wounded and took a job in a press gang death squad” is mostly bullshit, though not entirely. AFAIK the majority of those who survive the meat grinder don’t want anything to do with the military anymore, also - they usually lose limbs, it wouldn’t make them a good kidnapper, and those who get off easy get treated and sent back to the front lines. Just another ploy of “I already served” - this scum didn’t serve, the majority of them. What usually happens is “either you do it for a good pay, or we do it to you for free”

These are traitors in every sense of the term

We’ll cry for them when they face the wall or at the very least get beat up on the streets. No, I promise, it will be very emotionally difficult

Exactly. Running an occupation, which aside from being very unpopular would necessitate at least some rebuilding, lest they want a very economically and socially unstable region inside the federation. Also, that may be the reason they aren’t in a hurry right now - part “sparing the lives of their personnel”, part “attrition by vast economic superiority”, part “eh, whatever, let them implode from the inside perhaps”. If they wanted the land, they 1) wouldn’t have given the land back to Georgia in 2008; 2) started from Armenia or Belarus - why not? they’re smaller; 3) entered with 750,000 soldiers, rather than 150-190 thousand (+ some Bars/Alpha/whatever), and wouldn’t have gone through the Istanbul shtick.

One reason why we see the “conquer all Ukraine” fearmongering from the West and from Ukraine as well is to manufacture consent - this idea would perhaps force more people into giving themselves up to the grinder voluntarily.

Same warmongering as “the USSR will attack you next!” in the 1950s. An excuse more than anything else

Something tells me that Russia won’t even go that far - they might take a few oblasts like Kharkov and Odessa, where the people are more Russian-aligned, leave everything else intact and then pick their people for the new government. The post-conflict rump Ukraine is unlikely to be in any shape to be a threat for a very long time, the decaying US empire seems to be interested more and more in targeting China, and also - absorbing a rotting tumor would mean that all the Banderites will be free to metastasize through the veins, possibly waging Crocus-like asymmetrical warfare on Russia for years. It might at the end be too costly and inconvenient, as things stand.

How else are you going to scare the EU into buying all that US military junk that, as it so happens, isn’t that better than the Soviet-based improved weaponry?

But… but… Muh Russia meat wave hordes with spades