Bernie and AOC are very good too. There are probably others, USA has a lot of politicians. It’s impossible to know but a fraction of them.

I 100% agree, Al Franken was amazing at framing things and putting them into perspective. The sacrifice of him was a huge misunderstanding and completely undeserved.

Al Franken was possibly the most effective voice against Republican extremism. But he was sacrificed on Republican staged offense on the height of the wave of the me too movement.

Unfortunately Al Franken was sacrificed by leading democratic women on the wave of me too, on accusations staged by the Republicans.
Because Al Franken was one of the absolute most effective voices against the Republican madness.

Hello Gillibrand. Are you happy now? Did this boost your career like you hoped it would?

Yes, this is scary, the media are basically all working for Trump, even those who claim the opposite. But they are falling for the Trump foghorn, just as much as any average Joe, where the media are supposed to be professionals and above that.

Donald Trump is ahead of President Biden by six percentage points among likely voters in a new national survey.

USA has done phenomenally well on the economy lately, that used to count for something, but apparently not so much anymore.
A lot of Americans are planning to vote for the ills of USA to get worse for some reason. They complain average people are not doing well, and then they plan to vote for the guy who is all in for the 1% over everything else? The guy who will gladly dismantle every shred of workers rights, from the party who is absolutely fine with full time work that doesn’t even earn a living wage! Who will do absolutely nothing to make things better for working people, but everything he can to cut taxes for the rich.

Is it time to sell if you have American stock?
It seems to me to be pretty risky now. Could this end in a civil war over there?

Ah well USA will get the government they elect, maybe a 2nd term with Trump will make some people wake up. But I doubt it, just look at WW2 Germany, the Nazi regime had to be toppled from outside, but there is nobody to do that with USA.

So if Trump wins, I will not be surprised if we get decades of fascist dictatorship in USA.
If things are not looking better when we reach August, I will sell my American stock, and I think everybody who doesn’t is naive in thinking a new term with Trump will end well.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sinclair-lewis-on-fascism/

when fascism comes to America it will be “wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.”

I have a feeling he won’t be mayor again either.

That was yesterday.

If it were, Trump would have been behind bars years ago.

If they are traitors and terrorists, he may have to send them to Guantanamo.

There would be 2 fewer extreme MAGA judges in supreme court.
The same level of MAGA corruption and disinformation would not have been possible.
January 6 would never have happened.
Trump would not have the same legitimacy and platform to constantly scream his MAGA hate message.
Trump would likely have been judged much sooner for the crimes that were revealed during his first campaign. So he might actually have been in prison by now.
The widespread MAGA treasonous behavior to favor Putin and Russia and undermine USA would probably not be a thing.

So since Trump has been THEE major driver of extremism and treason in USA for the past 8 years, I’d say no. USA would not be nearly as divided as it is now.

People who follow infowars are already radicalized, and will say any moderate is polarizing. They want a Fuhrer, they want to exterminate LGBT and colored people. Their opinion is irrelevant, because there is no talking sense to those people. Just see how the MAGA people threw a fit, because their house leader “compromised” after 8 months of negotiating, and getting everything they asked for!!!
They are beyond reach, and they are the ones polarizing, not rational sensible people like AOC, that actually tries to make life better for most people.

If not only wanting to do things for the rich, the white and Christians, makes you polarizing, then a polarizing candidate is the only reasonable option.

You can have it, if enough people fight for it. Now the president can practically do it all by himself.

That doesn’t really make her polarizing, that’s just the right wing media treating her unfairly, as they do with every progressive Democrat, except a bit more, because she is popular.

because she’s too polarizing.

She shares a lot of views with Bernie Sanders, and Berni would almost surely have defeated Trump where Hillary failed.
As I see it, she is not nearly as polarizing as Trump. The only ones strongly against her, are probably extreme Christians and Nazis.

I didn’t post there earlier, only commented, Maybe the reason my post is the only one that isn’t jimmydoreisalefty, is that it hasn’t been deleted yet?
Previously I commented on this post: https://lemmy.world/post/16567090

Oh boy just looking at that picture, and then think how Mueller let that piece of shit traitor Flynn walk. That investigation was drawn out, and in the end he had done almost nothing of substance, and Mueller followed every single “direction” from the white house.
Try to compare that to how Bill Clinton was investigated and hung out for something of little relevance, not illegal, and besides the mandated investigation!
Republicans are so fucking corrupt! Including Mueller.

including you

I’m not American. But yes in a way we have collective responsibility as a people for the politicians we elect, and what we allow in our society.

Maybe. But Biden still has time for it to not be so cool for Trump.

I just posted the OP story there. I commented there once calling her a Russian puppet, and linked a story about it, which they called biased, despite everything was documented including pictures of lunch with Putin, and of course it was removed.