The US and Ukraine have finalized a ‘temporary ceasefire deal’ during the Jeddah talks, which were meant to be a kind of conciliatory round two chance for Ukraine to amend for Zelensky’s faux pas.

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    and surges support to Ukraine to force Russia to stop their invasion.

    How? Ukraine will need troops from additional armies in order to win against Russia.

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              Not even. The Soviets won that war for them, they came in late like the vultures they are to reap the rewards.

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                @yogthos@lemmy.ml

                Indeed, it was Russia that enabled the other allies to land on D-Day. The eastern front occupied the best German troops. One would never know this if reading Anglo-Saxon history, though. Sad.

                @BombOmOm@lemmy.world @commander@lemmings.world @60d@lemmy.ca

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              Hasn’t won any wars with unlimited objectives. Where there is no clear end goal, because regime change and installing a friendly government isn’t really clear and actionable.

              The first Gulf War had limited objectives, was a massive success and took only 6 months.

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                Cowardly bombing a country is not ‘fighting a war’
                Even then, like the ukranians you mostly used a proxy, the Kurds and other local factions to do the fighting for you.
                And in good american tradition you threw them under the bus later.

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                  I think you need to brush up on your history. And who is “you”? I’m not even American my friend.

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                    First of all how old were you when it happened?
                    I bet you got the sanitised, revisionist version, after some years plenty believed it had to do with WMD’s and never heard of the US warcrimes. (Same thing happened after decades of Hollywood fantasy movie propaganda when people in EU began to believe the US won the war and not the never mentioned Soviets)
                    I’m sure I know more about it or history in general you since we have better education than you Canadians and.
                    I’m sure with the many many SS Galicia warcriminals that moved there, and their offspring like Freeland whitewashing them I think you probably don’t know enough about your own country.

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            It’s the same story every time. Eventually, the US realizes that the proxy war has become a sunk cost and leaves their proxy to hang.