• Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I’m torn between wether the right response to that one is wanting Linux to support them, or refuse to play games that insist on requiring malware to play their game.

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      The latter. Always the latter. You know why?

      There are in fact many games with functioning anticheats that do not require kernel access. And there are also plenty of games with kernel level anticheat that is easily bypassed by, and thus are full of, cheaters.

      Know why? Because the difference is “does the games moderation team give a fuck?”.

      That’s it. That’s what makes the difference. Kernel level anticheat is a band-aid solution that’s cheaper than paying a decent support team what they’re worth. And if they’d rather pay for a half-assed software solution that’s also a gaping hole in user security, then you shouldn’t play the game in the first place. I don’t negotiate with terrorists, and neither should you.

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        Well, for the 1 game I play with a kernal anti cheat (valorant) I gotta say the game is surprisingly good and not having cheaters, certainly compared to my CSGO experience.

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          That has more to do with a moderation team behind the game that actually gives a shit than it does with having a kernel anticheat. Kernel anticheat keeps out the skids on MPGH, but a dedicated developer that actually gets paid for their efforts can bypass kernel anticheat with relative ease. This is why paid cheats for games with kernel anticheat (but also actually decent moderation) highly encourage you to be very subtle (using triggerbot instead of aimbot, for instance, or limiting your aim FOV/aim speed). The cheat in question may well be undetected by the kernel anticheat, but that doesn’t stop you from being banned by game admins that pay attention when you’re getting instant headshots and mass reported as a brand new account.

          Again. Kernel anticheat is a half-assed software solution.

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          To give context to the other comment, this video shows in detail many bypass for cheating in Valorant. Hacking into Kernel Anti-Cheats: How cheaters bypass Faceit, ESEA and Vanguard anti-cheats.

          One particular point that’s stand out to me is Riot propaganda on how effective is the kernel anti cheat, that’s change the players perception on cheaters and even when they face a cheater they don’t believe is actually a cheater, something like: “Nah can’t be a cheater, is impossible to cheat in Valorant”

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      Its 100% just not playing kernal anti cheat games. Its just valorant left, and I just cannot drop it as its the main game I play with a really good friend of mine that I enjoy hanging out with.

      I just hope windows 1 day also doesn’t allow kernal anti cheats, and that makes it so games can suddenly run on linux as well.