it’s like you believe you can tariff them expecting they won’t do the same. Why do you believe the rest of the world is not going to retaliate and why do you believe America can prosper without the rest of the world?

What’s the point of having a military alliance with countries you puts tariffs on? That’s unfriendly to say the least.

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    You are not the CEO of Raytheon, you’re a smug petite-bourgeois who stupidly thinks your interests have more in common with the CEO of Raytheon than with the people of Afghanistan. You’ve probably sold your soul for their blood money and become a loyal fascist ghoul, or if you haven’t yet, it’s what you aspire to.

    And yes, in fact, an Amazon worker is a loaded representation of “the people.”

    It absolutely is not. It’s an extremely common job. The second biggest employer in the US next to Walmart.

    so you can continue to ignore how thoroughly it was put down?

    It wasn’t put down at all, least of all not thoroughly. You just act like it was because you’re a smug asshole who thinks you’re better than everyone because you align with the “smart” establishment, completely ignoring actual reality and material class interests.

    I hope some day you find yourself on the receiving end of what you support.

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      Ah and now with the name calling. And yeah you tried to argue more about the Amazon worker being a cherry pick when it doesn’t matter at all.

      Listen kid, I’m all for not killing brown people by the millions too. I’m glad we agree on that.

      Where we don’t agree, and where you’ve been utterly put in your place beyond question, is on the topic of whether only CEOs benefit from American empire. All Americans do. Period. That’s the only topic here. Me saying it’s now closed is not smugness: it’s a fact. You can call me more names if it makes you feel better.

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        The level of smugness is completely off the charts.

        You literally didn’t respond to any of my counterarguments at all. Not a single word. All you did was lay out an opening position and instantly declare victory, over and over.

        Listen kid, I’m all for not killing brown people by the millions too. I’m glad we agree on that.

        If you support American imperialism, then yes you are. You can pretend to have a problem with the more grotesque elements necessary to maintain your goals all you like, your criticism is purely rhetorical, and even then extremely soft.

        “I only support US global hegemony, but I’m opposed to the bad things done to promote US global hegemony (only after they’re already done and can no longer be changed, of course)”

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          I haven’t expressed any preferences or allegiances any way. All I argued with was the contention that only the “ruling class” benefit from American dominated world order. That’s plainly false.

          Next thing I know you’re wailing about killing brown people and trying to pivot the topic and telling me I’m all for imperialism and an asshole. Yes I’m ignoring your bullshit tangents and ad hominem tantrums, because that’s what they are.

          You made a claim. It’s wrong. If anyone here is too full of themselves it’s you, because you are demonstrably incapable of recognizing when you are plainly wrong, and will yell expletives at anyone who dares point out that you are.

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            Your “refutation” that you act like was so decisive was just reciting Reaganite supply side economic orthodoxy. And then failing to defend any criticism of it. You can’t just spout Reaganite nonsense that’s fucked everyone and act like it’s a fucking mic drop.

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              Come talk to me when the impoverished of the world stop risking life and limb to be here. You think you’re the embattled poor but by global standards you are not, and when American empire falls, you will feel it too.

              It’s that simple. Mic drop.