• JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world
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    Quick primer. This is not the Parliament. This is the Council, the intergovernmental branch of the EU. Specifically, a meeting of national justice ministers. They sometimes vote but their real objective is to find consensus, since the EU is not a federation and it’s politically hard to pass anything against the wishes of national governments. If they can agree, then it goes to the Parliament, which definitely does vote and is obviously a bit more open to influence from ordinary voters.

    From the agenda for tomorrow:

    Ministers will also exchange views on the concluding report of the high-level group on access to data for effective law enforcement. At this year’s June meeting of home affairs ministers the Council welcomed the group’s 42 recommendations on access to data. At the upcoming meeting ministers will discuss the way forward now that the group has presented its concluding report.

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        Yeah but you’d think if they cared about themselves, they’d realize how this hurts them long-term, too.

        I think, really, the point is that they’re too short-sighted to see how this impacts more than just the people surveilled.

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          24 hours ago

          “Maybe if we just explain it to them more cogently, they will come to their senses.” This sounds like a Sorkin-esque West Wing perspective on how things work. They are not dimwitted or confused. They can see just fine.

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            Haha. No.

            Politicians are probably the most short sighted dipshits around.

            The sociopathic shitheels that were born into fuck-you money? Sure. Well, not counting morons like Elon, et Al, of course.

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            24 hours ago

            Lmao, that’s reading a lot into what I said. Who said anything about explaining anything to them? They don’t see the same earth or problems on the earth that we do, and almost nothing is going to change that. Bezos going to space didn’t give him that bullshit “Overview Effect” and make him a better person. Musk doing hallucinogens didn’t suddenly make him a better person and recognize that other people really exist.

            But treating them like they’re infallible and just so damn smart when the evidence shows otherwise isn’t helping.