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    7 months ago

    The left: “Healthcare is a right!”

    Feel free to point this one out to me in the Bill of Rights the way you can free speech.

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      7 months ago

      Again, free speech is not a legal absolute, so your argument that it is an absolute based on the Constitution doesn’t work. There are already restrictions on speech.

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        7 months ago

        I didn’t say it was absolute. I’m well aware there are restrictions.

        Your example of healthcare just makes no sense in this context.

        Not using the state to stop the sharing ideas we think are disgusting IS bedrock of free speech. And the ACLU used to think so even back when the KKK was far more active and overt.

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          If there are restrictions, then one of those restrictions can be “racism is not allowed.”

          There are hate speech laws in many countries. The U.S. is not a unique and precious snowflake that is unlike every other country on the planet and therefore unable to do the same things they do.

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            7 months ago

            I edited too late previously but I’d like to remind you of the arrests that were made for criticizing King Charles III in the UK. Maybe you don’t but I would also like to go on being able to say “fuck Trump” or whoever is president at the time.

            Your faith in the US to ban the right speech is naive.

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              7 months ago

              So you do think America is a unique and precious snowflake that somehow can’t apply laws that are found in many other countries.

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                7 months ago

                Dude… Take one single look at our healthcare and gun control situation compared to every other first-world country. How can you be this blind?

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                    7 months ago

                    You asked and I gave 2 excellent examples of how we’re special snowflakes… I don’t like it but that’s how it is.

                    I’ll vote every time to improve the healthcare and gun situation but I will never vote to further restrict speech.