‘Historic’ action by justice department closes ‘doggone dangerous’ loophole in Biden administration’s fight against gun violence
The sale of firearms on the internet and at gun shows in the US will in future be subject to mandatory background checks, the justice department said on Thursday as it announced a “historic” new action to keep weapons out of the hands of criminals.
The closing of the so-called gun show loophole, which exempts private transactions from restrictions that apply to licensed dealers, has long been a goal of the Biden administration, and is specifically targeted in the rule published in the federal register today.
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The White House estimates that 22% of guns owned by Americans were acquired without a background check and that about 23,000 more individuals will be required to be licensed as a dealer after the rule’s implementation.
Even a background check on every sale wouldn’t be enough to catch some previous offenders, those on watch lists, or people with serious mental illness issues because the system is woefully incomplete. The whole thing is ridiculous. You shouldn’t be able to buy guns at conventions or on websites to begin with. Honestly, I’m amazed licensed gun dealers haven’t been pushing congress to make it so that people have to buy guns through them- or if they have, I haven’t heard about it.
I don’t think it is realistic to get guns out of the equation in America any time soon, but it’s become such an insane free-for-all. Nothing enforced, everything has a loophole.
Guns bought online require a bgc and shipped to an FFL. Why are you assuming they don’t?
When did I say they didn’t?
What’s the qualm with online sales? They get shipped to an FFL and a background check is performed before the transfer anyways. Online sales add more competition to the market and increases consumer choice.
As for why FFLs don’t lobby for protectionist practices beyond principal, FFLs have terrible margins, are generally small businesses without much lobbying power, and lobbying for anti consumer practices generally doesn’t go well in that market. People are still mad at Springfield Armory (the company) for rescinding opposition on a failed Illinois bill after they got a carve out exemption so it wouldn’t apply to them (unlike their competition).
Just wondering, if you buy a gun online, how is it packaged? Would it for instance be evident to someone that might want to steal a gun?
It’s pretty mundane looking. I’ve always just got a plain brown box. Same for ammo.
BUT, it’s not legal to ship guns directly to you or I. I order a gun on guns.com and it goes to my FFL guy. I go sit in his kitchen, fill out the forms and give him his $20.
Typically a cardboard box, maybe also a hard case in the box. Depends on who you are buying it from. They’ll be mailed via USPS directly to a FFL (think gun store) and delivered into the store (not just left on a porch).
I had this box laying around in case I ever needed to RMA.
https://everytownresearch.org/report/unchecked-an-investigation-of-the-online-firearm-marketplace/
Those kind of transfers aren’t online sales but face to face sales facilitated by a post. None of the actual transaction is online.
In an online sale a buyer pays a seller through e-commerce then the seller mails the firearms to an FFL near the buyer where they go and pick it up after a background check.
That source seems to unintentionally conflate the former with the latter.
Bald faced lie, not even going to read the rest. Background checks are federally required. States can impose additional restrictions, but they cannot bypass this. It would be a Bulgarian cluster fuck if they did. They do not.
If you had read the rest, you would have seen that is literally mentioned in the next sentence of what I quoted…