• atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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        2 months ago

        I thought we were talking about gun violence. Gang related or not it was a thing in the 30s.

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            2 months ago

            I literally quoted what I was replying to. “Schools” is not mentioned.

            At one point in the 1930s the Sears catalog would send a full auto Tommy Gun straight to your house via mail order with no background check. And yet in those eras the idea of a grand spectacle suicide/homicide event would have been absolutely unthinkable, even among the most disposessed in society.

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              2 months ago

              I mean gang violence is usually not a grand spectacle event, so it has nothing to do with the text you’re quoted.

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      Yes I’m not saying there was zero violence in society. There were things like Al Capone’s St. Valentines Day Massacre, Bonnie and Clyde, the Kansas City Union Station shootout, etc. but these were extreme outliers in society at large and were international news because of it.

      What is relatively new is the concept of an average student or worker becoming disgruntled and deciding to mass murder peers in a singular incident, usually with some grandiose manifesto attached to it.

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        2 months ago

        School shootings in particular are a “new thing” - I’ll grant that. But in general gun violence in the US is definitely not a new thing.

        EDIT: Also - schools shooting today are actually still “extreme outliers” on the order of the gang violence of the '30s. They’re far more common than they should be, but they’re still pretty rare given the number of schools in the US.

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          for every school shooting there’s like 5 “school lockdown because of unidentified person on campus”