The important piece of this to me is this: She made $1 mil on OnlyFans and $42k/year as a teacher. She wants to be a teacher despite making plenty of money from other sources. This tells me that unless you have other evidence of impropriety she’s someone we want in the classroom. It also reinforces my stance, along with plenty of other studies that have been performed, that a universal basic income won’t stop people from working.
Pay people better and we’ll just keep working because we like it. It’s part of being human, but we shouldn’t be suffering to survive at the same time.
$1 million = 23.8 years of teaching at $42K/yr.
Add in that id you don’t blow it all, you get to count the interest income. A long term investment gets about 6-7% per year. That’s actually more than the teaching job pay.
A long term investment gets about 6-7% per year.
Much better than that in the current market
I quit a job I really liked for one I didn’t like nearly as much because I hardly made more than minimum wage
If I won the lottery I would go back to that first job and work for free.
You can’t retire on $1m net worth. That’s not even a house in lots of areas.
It definitely helps. But giving up my career for $1m would be a very bad investment.
Average investment returns are (conservatively) 8% per year, with a safe draw down being 4% per year. Which means she can safely withdraw $40,000/yr indefinitely without her investment decreasing in value over the long run.
Easily enough to retire in a decent cost of living area if she wishes, or work a small side job to boost her income to support a higher cost of living.
The safe withdraw for an extended early retirement is 3.5%
With 4%, while the chance is small, you could end up running out of money.
Someone did all the numbers for 35-40+ years looking back historically, and there were 4 or 5 years where if you started then and didn’t adjust your plan, you’d run out of cash.
There were 0 scenarios where 3.5% ran out
Especially considering she was making $42k annually as a teacher (according to another comment, I didn’t actually read the article). So she was able to live on roughly that amount already.
Realistically, she could continue to create OnlyFans content for some time and make and invest more than the initial $1m.
You can’t pay for groceries with your net worth but given million bucks I’d retire immediately. That amount of money invested to the stock market pays around 50 - 70k interests every year and you get to keep the million.
Yeah, except she can go makeinimum wage working full time for benefits and call it a day. You can live on minimum wage if you also have a mil in the bank to start. One door closed but a bunch of others opened. She can do that job you want that you don’t do because it doesn’t pay much.
I have no idea why you’re being down voted. You’re absolutely right. You can’t live on back interest from $1M, so you have to invest it, and while some years you’ll make more than 10% average invested in the stock market, over 10 years you’ll average 8% because some years you’ll not only make no returns but you’ll lose some of your investment. Which means if you’re living off those returns, some years you’ll have to eat into those investments, slowly eating down the money you have making money for you. You’re paying taxes on those returns, and if you’re living off them, they’re considered short term investments and you pay a higher tax rate - because you pay taxes on returns on your investments.
Rich people get richer because they have other income and can leave the money and the returns untouched; they aren’t living on the returns until they have far more money invested than $1M.
People down-voting you are morons.
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Sort of the joke in it all. You can’t retire on $42k/year either
yea but you can teach all life long, whereas on Onlyfans you… uh,… nevermind
y’all misunderstood my post, I think. I was trying to joke about the fact that even if you’re getting on in years, there will always be an audience for your OnlyFans. Anywayyyy
yea but you can teach all life long
Dying on your feet in class, because you can never afford to retire
I love how the employer admitted to not checking her references or googling her beforehand.
Can’t really blame her when they didn’t do their due diligence.
Yeah, the ones who hired a teacher without doing any sort of a background check are the ones who really should be fired. Imagine if they hired someone who was actually dangerous to their students.
The new employer wasn’t a school.
oops I dropped these
https://www.wsj.com/articles/yes-students-do-learn-more-from-attractive-teachers-1472223974
how clumsy of me, sorry y’all.
Man ugly people truly are fucked in every sense.
Well, not so much in the literal sense…
For sure it’s different when kids would just find out and start downloading her naked photos. Then parents would find out and be insanely mad that kids are viewing their teacher’s naked photos. It’s different case than secretly fantasizing about your pretty teacher lol
I know how the parents feel. That’s stupid article didn’t include a link. Journalistic malpractice is what it is
They’re already watching porn and making nudes of their friends using photo editing software and AI tools. At this point I don’t quite understand what does it matter if they’re somehow able to find their teacher’s OnlyFans pictures.
The attractive teachers must have really been frustrated by me. I only cared if you were a cool teacher. Most of the time, the attractive teachers were not the cool teachers.
My favorite and best teacher was a 70 year old retired Catholic nun who was a big fan of rulers on knuckles. But my God was she a fantastic teacher.
…And was she hot?
GILF to her knees.
I bet this is true for adults too! Lol
https://www.pornhub.com/model/bricoppage
About bricoppage: I am THAT Teacher from the News! Google me 🤫 OnlyFans.com/BriannaCoppage
- Brianna Coppage (REAL teacher) does DP for the first time! 💦
- Brianna Coppage Missouri teacher gives sloppy BLOWJOB
- Brianna Coppage (REAL Missouri teacher) rides COCK until she cums!
- Missouri teacher Brianna Coppage masterbates on camera
She’s a teacher and a porn star, but she still can’t spell masturbate…
smh my head
Fucking THANK YOU! Being in Missouri does not excuse such a faux pas. It is an insult to both of her professions.
How would missouri excuse this at all? Is this a testament to the quality of life here?
I figure it’s commentary on the education system?
Yeah saint louis education system sucks 🤣
Shaking my head my head?
RIP in peace
#!/bin/bash
echo “He had to emphasize whose head it was.”for better compatibility
A million dollars from OnlyFans and now she gets an employment law claim against the new employer.
This may truly be the only way to get ahead as a teacher in the US…
After her OnlyFans became public, Coppage told KMOV that she made $1 million on the platform. Her yearly teaching salary was $42,000, she said at the time.
Brb, going to go make an OF rq
Enjoy sitting at the shite end of the Pareto income distribution.
OF is a marketing gig, if you don’t have a way to push your content and leverage network effects, you’re not going to make any money.
The revenue from an only fans is the customer count × avg customer lifetime × avg subscription price, customer count is a function of your exposure to potential customers, and lifetime is a function of your content frequency and originality (I assume if you upload the same content types the fan base gets bored).
So, if you want a successful OF, you need to first focus on exposure, but the algos on most social media reward the haves, so your first issue is getting into people’s feeds. The best way to do this is targeting niches, areas with lower volume or high demand for content.
Then you need to keep your audience by engaging with them but pushing new concepts, which will present it’s own challenges. There’s very much a quick copy culture on these networks that you’ll probably have to emulate to keep on the front of the engagement curve, and expect anything you do that success to be quickly replicated ad infinitum until it doesn’t anymore. I think this is a losing battle over time.
You can also offer whale services like “girlfriend experiences” to try and lock in big spenders, but first you need them on a hook.
It’s not just snap some pics and you’re good.
That’s surprisingly detailed.
Considering teachers practically work 100% of the time, it seems it would be difficult to genuinely perform the duties required while still maintaining a flourishing side gig like OF.
My wife is a teacher. I see how much they have to work at home. She probably wasn’t a great teacher in the first place.
I feel her point about the pay. Considering the hours worked, teaching is barely approaching minimum wage.
“140 subscribers and we do a grading in doggystyle stream! Who wants a sticker?” Throw in a couple A+ emotes, and you’ve got cross-career synergy. Depending on her grade level it might not be as demanding outside of work.
I’m a senior manager at a pretty big company.
That’s something she does on the side, and if anyone in the workplace gave her shit, I would tell them to leave it the fuck alone unless they wanted me to bring HR in to the convo.
Can people please not be cunts? (I’m an Aussie…)
Edit: People need to disconnect things. Say there’s leaked nudes (or even just public nudes) of a work colleague. Let’s take it to they used to do porn. Yep, that’s something they did. That has zero impact on their role now or who they are in their role. They don’t deserve shame, or ridicule.
You know this chick:
Those expressions were her reaction to taste testing some kombucha on a video or stream. Those screenshots were grabbed by the internet and used in a similar format to the Drake meme, “Nah that’s bad” "actually I like that
She worked at a bank. They fired her for it.
So she was essentially fired for being a comedic actor. Imagine if the restaurant industry had the same policy.
It’s potentially worse, and stupider, than that.
The bank didn’t fire her specifically because she posted the video where she made a couple faces after trying kombucha. They fired her because her face started to get used for the meme. Completely out of her control, because people started posting “thing I don’t like, thing I like” memes with this format, often times with various political messages. Basically someone else used her face in a “this brings joy, this does not bring joy” meme and she got canned because of the bank’s “image.” As if it was actually her saying these things.
I mean, I hope she got a hell of a lawsuit out of that, because damn. Also its a bank so you know they have at least some money.
At Will employment. “In a meme” is not a protected class, and a reasonable bank employee could see her meme-attachment having a detrimental effect on business (you don’t have to be in your reasons for firing someone as long as those reasons aren’t protected or being used to hide that you’re firing them for a protected reason). I’d guess she’d have no case in almost any state in the US with their lack of employee protections.
Gross. Here in Brazil the employers would be bending over backwards to beg her not to sue them for all they’re worth.
Here in Sweden this wouldn’t be a problem whatsoever, and she’d have worker rights. Well, the conservatives driven by American cock sucking ideals are dismantling all that, but so far, she’d be ok.
ed: i get political when I’m drunk, sorry
And to be clear - she probably got unemployment. “At-Will” isn’t a magic spell.
Terminating an employee without cause requires them to pay unemployment.
She was terminated “for cause”. To get unemployment, she’s likely to have to fight for it. She’s likely to win, but it’s not a free thing.
restaurant industry
Isn’t that where fired comedic actors go after they are fired?
Wow. TIL. That sucks.
That’s fucked up. There’s nothing about that video that was remotely inappropriate for work. Everyone needs to join a union, holy hell.
What would HR at your company say?
Stop giving people shit about their “hobbies”.
Are you saying that to me or as a quote?
It feels like she knew she would get fired from this new job, leverage it nationwide articles and get even more subscribers to her OF page. She even references the teaching gig in her bio, and the new job in her latest posts.
Maybe. It doesn’t matter. Jobs shouldn’t be able to fire you because you get naked on the Internet, which requires you to pay to even see in the first place.
Edit:
@meep_launcher@lemm.ee made a great point about teacher/student dynamics and I can agree with that in most circumstances (e.g. the students are underage). I still think it’s ridiculous for her second, non-teaching job to fire her.
Gonna get roasted for this, but why?
I think it’s pretty reasonable for an employer to fire someone for posting racist things on the Internet. I think we can all agree on that. Actions outside of work can have an effect on work and so I think it’s reasonable to make employment decisions based on how the employer acts outside of work. I would argue racism is morally wrong and sex work is not, but I don’t think it’s possible to define employment laws in a way that fits a universal moral code.
I love the protected classes we have for employment now: age, gender, color, religion, etc. I think these protections are valuable to employees everyone, and I think they make sense because they don’t affect your ability to do the job. I having “does sex work on the side” on this list makes much less sense.
I think many, maybe even most, jobs wouldn’t be affected by an employee having an onlyfans, and so in my opinion someone shouldn’t get fired for it most of the time. But I think there’s a clear line between the protected classes and people who post on onlyfans.
Simple answer. Most of us (and most of the world) thinks At-Will employment is barbaric.
It is entirely reasonable to require some substantive effect to warrent termination, even if that substantive effect is not directly the teacher’s fault. Her having an onlyfans account, not grounds for firing. Her onlyfans account passed around by students? Grounds for termination.
There’s a (not so new) trend in the US for companies to crack down on side gigs. Yes, sex work is a politically charged side-gig, but we shouldn’t ever be supporting a company’s right to fire people having side-gigs without a very good reason. So long as your side-gig never encroaches into your day job in any real (not hypothetical) way, there really isn’t a good reason.
I appreciate you taking the time to respond so thoughtfully.
I hear what you’re saying about not firing someone until an actual effect on the business is felt. I think that makes sense in this situation but there’s certainly situations where you could find something out about an employee and should be able to fire them before it’s affecting the business. Maybe my accountant committed tax fraud when they filed their taxes. That’s totally in their personal life and if no one finds out about it, then it doesn’t affect the bussiness. I still think it would be totally reasonable to fire that person.
I’ve worked my whole career in salary positions where side gigs are against my contract/need special approval so I think I’m just used to that way of thinking.
It makes me all warm and fuzzy to see people have respectful disagreements!
Eh I disagree with some jobs. Teachers are supposed to be role models to students and keep certain things private.
The problem is we aren’t paying teachers adequately for that. It reminds me of essential workers during the pandemic. If we need these people so badly, or we’re asking them to be role models and be private about certain things, then we should be paying them much, much more.
How is doing sex work being a bad role model?
I want you to know that I don’t have an answer for this and that you’ve made me think about this from a different angle, which I very much appreciate. It’s a very good point.
Thank you for saying so! I have to admit that my comment is almost adressed to myself as much as to you. I was raised with all the sexual hang ups of conservative Christianity. The idea of my daughter growing up and choosing to do sex work certainly makes me uncomfortable. But I also would like my daughter to be unashamed of her sexuality when she grows up, and I wouldn’t want her to be judged no matter how she chooses to express herself. I also believe sex work can be an incredibly compassionate form of labor, providing human connection to people starved of affection.
On the other hand, I do have some reservations about sex work, particularly when it comes to outright prostitution. Can someone have sex with so many people and still maintain the ability to have a full, healthy relationship with a partner? What are the consequences for social stability of making it so easy for men to cheat on their partners?
I think I’m in the exact same position as you. Generally speaking I tend to be personally conservative about sex and relationships – not really into hook up culture, thinking sex should be with someone you deeply love, etc.
That said, as a single, nearly 30 year old dude, I do watch porn, and it’s usually by independent content creators, not studios. I find the idea of maligning those women for what they do to be utterly reprehensible, and peak hypocrisy. If I were in their shoes, there’s a decent chance I’d also post nudes and try to monetize it.
Yet, at the same time, I don’t like subscribing to only fans, because it just feels wrong, like on a core level personally. On some level, I’m wary of getting overly invested in someone and having a weird parasocial thing. I’m glad that I’ve given them money in the short term though.
Human sexuality is really weird, and the way society plays into it makes it nigh incomprehensible sometimes how we feel and act about it.
Human sexuality is really weird, and the way society plays into it makes it nigh incomprehensible sometimes how we feel and act about it.
I couldn’t agree more
I’m a teacher and they specifically have guidelines on what you’re behavior online should be. Keeping your socials clean. Making sure my interactions with students are kept professional.
The fact is that kids these days are nosey and great researchers. Having an only fans as an educator has a huge risk of students discovering it, and will ultimately change the relationship between student and teacher from a student/ teacher relationship to a viewer/ pornstar one.
This is the most sane, rational summation of this debacle I’ve read yet.
This thread seems to fall into the “people who have no idea about the realities of teaching being confidently incorrect”.
As someone somewhere said; if you want to lose faith in comment sections, go to a discussion on a topic that you are an expert on.
OnlyFans and high school teacher absolutely do not mix. There is a 0% chance one will be able to properly educate students in that environment.
If only we paid them a living wage so they wouldn’t have to seek additional income to survive.
If only we paid them a living wage
ST. LOUIS…Her yearly teaching salary was $42,000
In 2016, the median household income in the City of St. Louis was $42,000. source (expand the dropdown: What does this indicator measure’)
She made as much teaching as the median household income in the area by herself (completely ignoring the rest of her household). Since when is that not a living wage?
Most adults are perfectly capable of siloing different parts of their lives, especially between work and personal lives.
But I can see you’re probably not part of most adults and therefore it MUST be impossible for everyone else…
Most adults
We are talking about highschool students here. You think they will be able to properly learn in such an environment?
You think they will be able to properly learn in such an environment?
Why wouldn’t they? In middle school one of the teachers (a long time ago) did some porn and I saw the pictures. It didn’t affect my ability to learn. Seeing boobs didn’t magically make my brain stop working.
I dunno, I saw boobs when I was a baby and now I’m a fucking idiot.
If there was karma on this place then I’m about to yeet it into oblivion but nevertheless. Teachers are not paid nearly enough but doing only fans and teaching to not combine at all. I won’t bother explaining why because it’s obvious.
To me this reads as:
< preemptive justification for saying something controversial and/or indefensible >
< controversial statement with no justification or reasoning >
“Not going to explain because it’s obvious”
Probably not how it was intended, but that’s some weak sauce
My sauce is that it is not how a teacher should act period. Also it’s not private she also has some pornhub which is publicly available website. no matter the pay.
that it is not how a teacher should act period.
C’mon dude, just say the sexist parts out loud. We all know that’s where this conversation is headed anyway.
It’s the only reason you keep sticking to circular logic to defend yourself. You know if you say what you really mean here, it isn’t going to go over well.
What is there sexist about this mate ? It doesn’t matter whoever does it a teacher should not be making porn on the side.
Why not?
When someone works in education, they take on a role that involves being a model of behavior and a guardian of social and ethical standards for their students. Engaging in online (which by design is inevitably public) sexual activities can be seen as inappropriate for teachers for several reasons:
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Professional Standards and Ethics: Most educational institutions have codes of conduct that outline expected behaviors both inside and outside the classroom. Engaging in these activities can be viewed as a violation of these professional standards and ethics.
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Role Modeling: Teachers are seen as role models by their students and the community. Engaging in behavior that is generally considered to be private and intimate in public can undermine the respect and trust that students and parents have in educators. It can also send conflicting messages to students about privacy, consent, and appropriate social behavior.
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Social Norms: Engaging in these online practices can offend community standards. Educators, as public figures to some extent, are expected to uphold social norms to maintain the integrity of their profession.
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Impact on the Educational Environment: Such behavior can distract from the educational mission, potentially creating an environment that is not conducive to learning. It might lead to gossip, disruptions, and a breakdown in the professional atmosphere of an institution.
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Privacy and Professional Boundaries: Teachers engaging in this blur the lines between their private lives and their professional roles. Maintaining a clear boundary between these spheres is essential for maintaining professional integrity and ensuring that the focus remains on education and student welfare.
In essence, teachers are expected to conduct themselves in a manner that maintains the dignity of their profession, respects the norms of society and fosters a positive, respectful, and effective learning environment. Online sexual activities, due to their private nature and potential to conflict with social norms, can significantly undermine these goals.
Finally, I want to add that it is specifically because of all this that teachers must be paid way more due to the CRITICAL role they play in society.
1/2: You’re basically saying the same thing twice here. You’re saying that making adult content is bad, which has so far been your only argument. You have yet to explain why it is bad/immoral/unethical/unprofessional, just confidently asserting that your opinon on the matter is actually fact. You are also taking huge liberties by trying define the private production and distribution of pornography as a form of public sex.
3: Very close again to 1 & 2, but worth bringing up that America is a free country with free speech and expression. Being offended isn’t a valid argument here. People have rights and shouldn’t be obligated to conform with a concept a vacuous as “social norms” to hold public employment.
4: This is just conjecture. Firing a teacher for this requires solid evidence that is true. Not just concern trolling that it might be true, which is all you’ve offered so far.
5: That’s why she has always produced adult content pseudonymously. The people who doxxed her violated her privacy. That’s hardly her fault.
And finally, literally every single point you made could be (and regularly is) used to argue that LBGTQ+ people don’t belong in education, because hatred of sex workers and hatred of queer people are both rooted in a deep fear and opposition to sexual freedom and empowerment, and a belief that those things make a person’s mere existence inappropriate for children.
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doing only fans and teaching to not combine at all
Then we’ll see fewer and fewer teachers. And more and more sex workers.
Ok but, where are the leaks?
LMAO
