Former President Donald Trump urged members of a crowd in Florida to vote and said that if he wins, they “won’t have to vote anymore.”
Speaking at a Turning Point Action event in West Palm Beach on Friday, Trump, who tried to overturn the 2020 election he lost, delivered a cryptic message.
“And again, Christians, get out and vote!” he said to a cheering audience. “Just this time. You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years. You know what? It’ll be fixed! It’ll be fine! You won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians. I love you, Christians! I’m a Christian. I love you. Get out. You gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don’t have to vote again.”
What the fuck is supposed to be cryptic about this? He’s making it perfectly clear that he wants to overthrow democracy in the US. And everybody who votes for him is OK with that.
Trump said it in a way that he could have meant that you won’t have to vote for him again. He kept saying “vote for me now and in 4 years you won’t have to vote again”. I’m sure if you made this criticism to Trump’s face he would act like you’re being unreasonable and pretend that of course he meant that he can only do 1 more 4 year term. Trump’s supporters would respond similarly. But that’s why it’s called a dog whistle, the message gets to the people he wants it to while it forces his detractors to debate what’s going on inside Trump’s head.
Many don’t think he can pull it off, which is the scary part that might let him do it.
“Oh, that’s all talk. He can say what he wants but can’t do shit without the House and Congress, and if he wanted to change things to get more terms? With states majority agreement that’s required? Not in his lifetime. You worry for nothing, PassingThrough, it’s all showmanship, as it always has been. And no, the Army wouldn’t help such an obvious fool overthrow the government either.”
It’s crazy.
“Oh, your drunk uncle Mike who has three arson convictions, thinks you turned the family against him, and is in your attached garage with gas and a lighter threatening to burn it down? Don’t worry about him, he’s harmless!”
-you won’t have to vote ME anymore- FTFY, orange felon
As if it matters what Trump of all people says.
You don’t understand how leadership works, do you?
A leader’s power comes from those who follow. Trump’s followers are dangerous lunatics who believe they are willing to commit acts of violence. They care what he says and there’s enough that we should care too, insofar as it tells us what to expect.
You don’t understand how leadership works, do you?
Look, I’ll talk with you, but not if this is how you treat me.
Pretty sure that warrants a second attempt.
How do you know the fascists won’t just rally behind somebody else like Trump, but younger and more competent?
Not really a reason not to
Assassinations usually make things worse. Just look at what happened to the string of coups in South Vietnam during the Vietnam war.
Or, can you think of a time when assassination actually did improve matters?
That’s the usual “if they killed hitler someone worse would have take power”. That’s not certain at all, what is certain is that hitler was very bad and removing him would have been a good thing.
Can you give an example of a time when assassination produced a better successor?
Trump using the language of a tyrant is not an accident. When people say that democracy is on the line this election, we’re not being hyperbolic, we’re saying that because of statements like this. Please get out there and vote this November.
When people say that democracy is on the line this election, we’re not being hyperbolic
The election system in the US has been under siege since the end of Jim Crow. The conservative response to the civil rights act has been to egalitarianize disenfranchisement.
We’ve had Republicans chipping away at the functional organs of democracy since Eisenhower’s Red Scare leveraged the Hoover FBI to infiltrate and eradicate self-sufficient communities and their unionized labor leadership back in the 50s.
Meanwhile, the Democrats’ leadership have never sat particularly well with the influx of minority voters following the Civil Rights Act. They’ve had to digest racist backlashes within their own party from the George Wallace Dixiecrat break away campaign under LBJ to the Hilary Clinton “birther” attacks launched at Obama during the '08 primary.
The end result is Republicans openly embracing fascism at the state and local level, while Democrats dissolve their own primary system in pursuit of a rigid corporate sponsored nomination process.
This isn’t something that’s going to be fixed in an election cycle. Trump losing won’t make Republicans less fascist. Kamala taking the nomination of the discarded carcass of an establishment insider like Biden won’t heal the divide in the Democratic Party. And it certainly won’t undo the fascist GOP takeovers in Texas, Florida, and Ohio.
We’re in for a rocky road ahead under either Presidency.
Democracy is an overrated concept - truth cannot be achieved through consensus but by the will and conviction of one.
imagine openly saying this shit. lol. your comment history is a trash fire so it isn’t surprising.
Thank you for your most excellent contribution.
no, don’t oversell it; it was a normal contribution… it just looks most excellent when juxtaposed with your inane ramblings.
Hardly but if it makes you happy.
Akshally, I agree that democracy with votes is flawed at best.
Consensus is not it, but it’s also bad in the situations where you have to make some decision. It favors sabotage.
Democracy through sortition and (ranked) vote combined is my favorite concept, with a lot of things being left to voluntary contracts with exterritorial jurisdictions, like a few states inside one in the same territory, where you can choose between a jurisdiction of ancoms, a jurisdiction of Christians, a jurisdiction of crackheads and so on.
A.I. take the wheel.
Hell no, G-d no.
Gonna go out on a limb here and guess that you wouldn’t find a progressive supreme leader satisfactory?
Truth, Trump, pick one. Dude sharpies hurricanes. Also a weird goal for government. Would our leaders telling the truth be a good thing? Oh yeah, but “truth” won’t help the hungry.
Trump is a douchbag…
The Founders DEFINITELY wanted us to be Able to Shoot up Kindergarteners. THAT’S Crystal Clear! But their views on Democracy are MUCH more newanced and Unknown!
