All allies from capitalist, often times even socialist states are formed for mutual self interests
I’d imagine Turkey aggressing Syria makes giving S300s a harder decision for Russia. They’re probably more influential than Syria, hence them having s400s (I think the only foreign country to have them?)
Even in terms of capitalism, it’s so dumb to sell a NATO country your state of the art air defense system. Especially one as shady as Turkey. Turkey has several times demonstrated they act against Russia’s interests and having even taken over chunks of Syria through extremist proxies which threatens Russian access to ports.
But then again, there is the lenin quote about capitalists selling rope.
Yep, Russia of today has no principles. It’s only because their opponent in Ukraine is NATO that they are worthy of the slightly bit of critical support they get.
I wouldn’t say this means Russia have no principles, this fact more points on Turkey having none whatsoever and playing on both sides because their strategic importance and both sides just have to entertain and bribe them, NATO is also allowing them more leeway than any other member.
Fair enough, though dialectically we should get rid of such sentiments in analysis as it allows for anachronisms to set in. We all know USSR would be better but it sadly don’t exist now and we have to deal with what it is.
All allies from capitalist, often times even socialist states are formed for mutual self interests
I’d imagine Turkey aggressing Syria makes giving S300s a harder decision for Russia. They’re probably more influential than Syria, hence them having s400s (I think the only foreign country to have them?)
Even in terms of capitalism, it’s so dumb to sell a NATO country your state of the art air defense system. Especially one as shady as Turkey. Turkey has several times demonstrated they act against Russia’s interests and having even taken over chunks of Syria through extremist proxies which threatens Russian access to ports.
But then again, there is the lenin quote about capitalists selling rope.
They did it to win over Turkey over some important issue (I forgot) + drew them away from Patriot battery sales
And Turkey “thanked” them by agreeing to NATO expansion.
Yep, Russia of today has no principles. It’s only because their opponent in Ukraine is NATO that they are worthy of the slightly bit of critical support they get.
I wouldn’t say this means Russia have no principles, this fact more points on Turkey having none whatsoever and playing on both sides because their strategic importance and both sides just have to entertain and bribe them, NATO is also allowing them more leeway than any other member.
Ah I see your viewpoint. I still maintain they don’t either, perhaps because I am comparing them relative to the USSR, and perhaps unfairly.
Fair enough, though dialectically we should get rid of such sentiments in analysis as it allows for anachronisms to set in. We all know USSR would be better but it sadly don’t exist now and we have to deal with what it is.
Agreed. I would be lying if I said I was looking at this totally logically.