• someguy3@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    My solution is to vote. Give Dems consistent and overwhelming victories.

    When you start putting out silly strawmans you show you’re not having a good faith discussion. So I think I’m out.

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      5 months ago

      The original comment was that Democrats are not responding to climate change appropriately.

      All I’m saying is that since they’re the only ones that we can trust, that they should probably take it more seriously.

      Even with Democrats in all branches of government, with our current policies, our planet will be uninhabitable to large populations in warmer countries.

      Let’s not get it twisted here. If we don’t make serious changes now, then we are going to have to suffer the consequences.

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        5 months ago

        No the original comment was “How was Biden worse than expected?”

        To which I responded “Some people think the entire world and everything in it can be changed on a dime. I have to constantly tell people things take time.”

        To which you tried to limit it to climate change.

        God why am I bothering when you’re making up what this was about.

        Even with Democrats in all branches of government, with our current policies,

        God why am I bothering. Dems have had control for 4 out of the last 24 years. They can’t do what they want because they never have control. If you include Bill Clinton, then it’s 6 years of the the last 32 years. Go back further and it’s 6 out of the last 44 fucking years. Read that again, 6 out of the last 44 fucking years.

        And that can still be filibustered. So if you want the filibuster proof majority, then Obama had it for 4 months. Not years, MONTHS. Dems had filibuster proof control for 4 MONTHS of the last 44 fucking years.

        And you wonder why they can’t do much? Give your head a shake.

        I’m going to give you the history because you seriously need to learn this. Climate change not winning issue. In fact it’s losing issue. People lose elections because of this. Again, I want it to be a winning issue, but I think it’s a losing issue. Look at the history:

        Carter said to turn down your thermostat and wear a sweater. And he was quickly punted from office.

        Guess what, Bill Clinton learned that to win he couldn’t touch it.

        Then Gore said maybe it’s time and ran on it. And then Gore lost.

        Guess what, Obama learned that to win he couldn’t touch it.

        Then Hillary Clinton said maybe it’s time and ran on it. And then Hillary lost.

        Guess what, Biden learned that he couldn’t run on that. Frankly it’s amazing he’s doing anything on it because it’s not a winning it’s a losing issue. Doing what he did may very well cost him the presidency because Trump will tie it to inflation.

        And you wonder why current policies are what they are? Again, give your head a shake. It’s incredible they’re as progressive as they are. You want it to be even more progressive? Then give Dems consistent and overwhelming victories. Who knows if it’ll ever be a winning issue to run on, but if they at least win it can be something they can do on the side.

        Let’s not get it twisted here. If we don’t make serious changes now, then we are going to have to suffer the consequences.

        JFC why do I bother when you twist what I say, I already said I want things to happen, but I know things take time. Why the fuck do I bother when you act like this. Yeah I’m out, you’ll just continue with this twisting. Looking back you’ve been doing it from the start.

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            5 months ago

            That doesn’t sound like someone who cares about climate change. I

            Ah strawman. Guess me saying that I WANT it three times doesn’t get through huh. And WOW you go on attacking on that strawman. That’s my thanks for explaining things to you huh. I was right, you twist what people say.