When your understanding of geopolitics is “Putin is a saturday morning cartoon villain and Ukraine are the heroes” you kind of have to make the most logical leaps to justify something like this. They aren’t capable of nuance.

It’s impossible to get it through their thick heads that Putin doesn’t need a false flag to get support. There is no reason for him to do this.

They also called the bombing in Iran a false flag attack

How nice of ISIS to keep us in the loop like this.

I am patiently waiting for that fat british liberal to defend Russia’s right to defend itself and condemn the terrorists behind this attack (he won’t even cover it).

Various propagandists have already blamed Ukraine, before the cops even cleared the building and did a body count nevermind apprehending any suspects. Sickening stuff tbh

https://t.me/rabkor/15781

Without the ruthlessness of Biden, Trump could never get it off the ground in a million years.

This. If Republicans tried to do it the opposition from the population would be too much. It takes a Democrat administration to get the masses to consent to fascism. Democrats are experts at demobilizing popular resistance movements.

Then why kill the people they love so much? This is obviously russophobic driven terrorism, the cowards are shooting indiscriminately at innocent people, you need to see them as animals to be able to do it that easily. Definitely organized by NATO/US.

Why? US has delayed plans by months before. Who knows what operational reasons they might have had.

Also something of this scale the US probably didn’t want to directly tip its hand. So it warned people weeks in advance, specified a false timeline knowing most Americans likely to heed it anyways would probably avoid such gatherings for even longer than that.

Also could have been Ukrainian SBU, the certain parts of the US learned of it or were informed, issued that alert and maybe knowing their chances were worse with that alert out they rescheduled and tried to keep it from the Americans next time.

Edit: Now it’s being claimed it’s IS(IS) who is claiming responsibility. IS is an arm’s length plausibly deniable CIA proxy. They knew what they were going to do, but they may not have known when or had control of when as is the case with proxies (they may have even known when but tipping their hand caused a change in plans and had it pushed back). Needless to say even if one doesn’t accept IS as a CIA proxy, the US is ultimately responsible for the creation of the group and its power via their campaign against Assad. Thus the US is responsible once again for the deaths of many Russian civilians.

I would not be surprised if they try again with more, the US would love to turn Russia’s attention to Syria, to split it’s military operations between that and Ukraine to give Ukraine more time.

I think that it’s almost certain that US is behind this given that Vicky the witch was just promising nasty surprises. These are the surprises.

actually very timid

While I despise the Nazis in Ukraine, and I don’t want to flatter Putin, I’m personally hoping his unwillingness to fight wars like the US does at the very least comes from some place of being rational and not criminally insane. Wars shouldn’t play out like the Iraq war.

If Medvedev was the president currently, Ukraine wouldn’t exist as a country at this point.

https://www.csis.org/analysis/under-secretary-state-victoria-nuland-two-year-anniversary-russias-full-scale-invasion

Extremely non suspicious behavior to immediately come out and say “it wasn’t us!”

Holy shit they’re stupid and they think they’re clever.

I think they’re losing steam but they’re indeed around. There’s a lot more infighting now, because they can’t decide if they’re pro-Israel or not as a group. Also they can’t decide if terrorist attacks are good or bad depending on who it happens too.

In my sporadic spree of Twitter trolling, ban evasions and sending death threats to Isisraeli supporters, yes NAFO indeed is even more active. Like if you accidentally kicked a cardboard box and tons of roaches scurry out from underneath it.

Unfortunately, yes.

I feel like if they had the capability of doing so they would’ve already done so…

I disagree; world war is preferable to turning the other cheek (overly much, anyways), and this will increasingly become the case when and as things become more dire, and the west more deranged.

World war was preferable to accepting Japanese or Nazi suzerainty for the Soviets and China; it is certainly preferable for over 1 million Gazans starving to death as we speak- and now, with the west escalating yet again, no doubt it is becoming closer and closer to a reality in Russia, and in due time when and as they turn their attention east, China. The nuclear deterrent only works for so long as both sides are willing to use it- and I think, as socialists, but also simply as humans, we must never abandon the option entirely, not so long as it exists for the other side.

I agree with China and Russia’s present approach of cautious engagement- time is on their side, on humanity’s side. But when and as things ramp up- and it seems increasingly likely that they will, and it will almost certainly be western aggression as always that causes it to- eventually, there will come a point it crosses a line, where an equal or greater strike will be preferable, where outright war- even world war- will be preferable. And IMO it would be an abandonment of everything- every value, hope, and dream of the people, and the very essence of self-preservation and dignity, etc- to not strike with full and equal force should things come to that point.

A worse outcome than a genocide of one people.

You can understand, perhaps, how some people- or likely many, if we’re talking those suffering the conditions of Gaza right now- would disagree, and act accordingly, though.

Personally I would also disagree- Gaza, and Palestine at large, survives for now, but should the total eradication of Gazans, akin to what was done across the eastern seaboard of the US, near its endgoal, I fully and utterly hope that war, to whatever extent necessary (world war included) begins to end the genocide, even if it risks the species and biosphere altogether.

I would rather humanity dies on its feet, than on its knees. To me, while I can accept, understand, and support biding one’s time (when and if it is beneficial- as it is for now, for China and perhaps for Russia alike), ultimately, in the whole picture, I think there is nothing more abhorrent, more inhumane, than turning the other cheek permanently and unilaterally- as even famous pacifists like Gandhi spoke against (the “emasculation of a whole race,” or in this case, the whole of humanity, the global south, and the working classes). And the imperialists in particular are undeniably the enemies of humanity, a very real and well-recognized threat to the biosphere in their own right. If it is not put down, sooner or later capitalism, imperialism in particular, will likely kill us all the same.

Agreed, in many ways the war is already here. And this time, unlike the “cold” war, humanity must win. And soon if not now already, it’s time to call their bluff- this time with the whole world on one side, and the western elites on the other.

If there’s to be an antiwar narrative, it must be on the west’s side- they are and have always been the aggressors; they are the one committing genocide in Gaza, instigating it in eastern Ukraine, trying to plunge the world on multiple fronts into war, backing terrorists, separatists, tribalists, and fascists wherever they exist. There is not an inch to be given on the global south’s side. If the west cannot learn to mind their business, perhaps our species is better off seeing how accurate the theories of nuclear winter and other such catastrophe really is.

I have good news, it’s far more likely we’ll die from radiation poisoning or starve to death once the nuclear winter sets in.